Stanford v Oregon

[mytwocents]

Hopefully I didn't miss an already made thread.... we want Stanford right? If for no other reason than because Oregon can gtfo...or no?

[cheeseyone]

We play both teams away, I don't really care who wins...seeing each other expose the other's weaknesses would be nice though.

[Chicat]

Whoever wins is in the drivers seat for the Rose Bowl . . . and maybe a NC game. And it doesn't really matter to us who it is since as cheesy said we have to play both of them away. Personally I think we match up better with Oregon, so I'd like to see them win this game. But of course if Oregon wins convincingly then my estimation of how we match up with them might change.

[budd1e_lee]

Hopefully I didn't miss an already made thread.... we want Stanford right? If for no other reason than because Oregon can gtfo...or no?

Yes you did. Yes we do. Yes. Duck the ****s. Too bad the censor doesn't allow that.

[mytwocents]

Yes you did. Yes we do. Yes. Duck the ****s. Too bad the censor doesn't allow that.

errr.......where's the thread?

[splitsecond]

Whoever wins is in the drivers seat for the Rose Bowl . . . and maybe a NC game. And it doesn't really matter to us who it is since as cheesy said we have to play both of them away. Personally I think we match up better with Oregon, so I'd like to see them win this game. But of course if Oregon wins convincingly then my estimation of how we match up with them might change.

I agree with this, and would like to add that you know Harbaugh has the week we come to town marked with his revenge pen.

[budd1e_lee]

errr.......where's the thread?

http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?t=104055

Iit no matta.

[WildcatBlitz]

Honestly I don't know who should win becuase either way I am not sure whp can beat these two teams in the Pac-10 anyways.

If someone held a gun to my head I would say I want Stanford to win. I think that in general the schedule favors Stanford more than Oregon.

[Silversun]

I think we have a much better shot at beating Stanford at Palo Alto than Oregon in Autzen, so i'm rooting for Stanford

[budd1e_lee]

Furd +6.5

[ZonaCats8]

Are you kidding me, on ABC I'm getting ND-BC and on ESPN 2 I'm getting USC-UW, how in the world is a top 10 game not a fully nationwide game?

[DCCat]

Are you kidding me, on ABC I'm getting ND-BC and on ESPN 2 I'm getting USC-UW, how in the world is a top 10 game not a fully nationwide game?
I can't f-ing believe it.

[IH8ASSU]

Is the Stanford defense even on the field?

[illcat]

Dang that Oregon o is something else!!

[budd1e_lee]

Thomas tackles himself better than anybody else.

[DCCat]

Glad you guys can see the game. Evidently some genius at ABC/ESPN decided that the east would rather see USC rout Washington.

[IH8ASSU]

Glad you guys can see the game. Evidently some genius at ESPN decided that the east would rather see USC rout Washington.

Leave it to ESPN those idiots

[illcat]

Thomas tackles himself better than anybody else.

:lol2::lol2:

[WildcatBlitz]

Glad you guys can see the game. Evidently some genius at ABC/ESPN decided that the east would rather see USC rout Washington.

Why is BC vs Notre Dame even on? Lets see...A top ten fight or two mediocre un-ranked teams, the choice should be easy.

No, We get USC vs Washington (WHO CARES) and some crap ABC game.

[budd1e_lee]

Stanford's power game is scary. Great TD grab.

[Sidewinder]

FWIW, I have USC-UW on ESPN2HD but UO-Furd on regular old ESPN2

[Lubey]

I think I'd rather see Stanford win this game. I'm more confident winning @Stanford than @Oregon.

[WildcatBlitz]

FWIW, I have USC-UW on ESPN2HD but UO-Furd on regular old ESPN2

me 2....freaking weird

[budd1e_lee]

Autzen is quiet.

[WildcatBlitz]

I am shocked that Stanford is really going crazy on OU. I thought it would be a close game, but it might not be.

[DCCat]

FWIW, I have USC-UW on ESPN2HD but UO-Furd on regular old ESPN2
Ah, I get it now. Should be the other way around, but at least I can see it. Thanks for the tip.

[splitsecond]

Wow musberger, suck off luck a little bit more

[scumdevils86]

Go cardinal!

[illcat]

Luck has a nice touch and has some wheels.

[budd1e_lee]

I am shocked that Stanford is really going crazy on UO. I thought it would be a close game, but it might not be.

Better.

[Uacat540]

Luck is out of control. Stanford is wrecking the ducks and Autzen. Lets hope we can do the same thing.

[Silversun]

Good game so far! (If youre rooting for the Cards)

[budd1e_lee]

I'm loving this. I hate Oregon.

[PieceOfMeat]

Furd is killin em so far.

[budd1e_lee]

:lol2:

[Uacat540]

Jesus, now how does someone beat stanford? I really wish rich rod would loose the rest of his games, and Michigan comes calling with a lot of money for Mr Harbaugh

[illcat]

i'm loving this. I hate oregon.

^ ^ ^

[scumdevils86]

Is Oregon overrated that much or is Stanford this terrifyingly good?

Harbaugh is will nothing short of a deity in the cfb world...if this keeps up.

[illcat]

Thomas has proven he can run but imo the jury is still out on his passing ability.

[illcat]

Is Oregon overrated that much or is stanford this terrifying good?

Harbaugh is will nothing short of a deity in the cfb world...if this keeps up.

A little of both I suspect.

[WildcatBlitz]

Wow...did he even have to pump fake?

[budd1e_lee]

Wow...did he even have to pump fake?

The pump is what they bit on to the outside receiver in the flat.

[illcat]

Did Musberger just say they ran that same play with the same results against assu??

[WildcatBlitz]

Nice call by Oregon. Oregon scores again and the stadium will go crazy.

[illcat]

Good call by Kelly.

[WildcatBlitz]

Stanford D is all turned around now.

[PieceOfMeat]

and here comes oregon. meh

[ice]

This game is f*cking awesome, I'm pissed I have to be somewhere in an hour where the game probably won't be on.

[illcat]

Just watching Oregon's o do you think the Cat's D might over commit on Thomas thus getting burned??

[ice]

The more I watch this Stanford offense, the more I dread our game against them.

[WildcatBlitz]

I swear that every time its 3rd and short, Stanfords play is a play action.

[ice]

Just watching Oregon's o do you think the Cat's D might over commit on Thomas thus getting burned??

We didn't overcommit as much against Cal as we did against Iowa, so I hope not.

[illcat]

I swear that every time its 3rd and short, Stanfords play is a play action.

No kidding!!

[WildcatBlitz]

Thomas has an arm.

the total score of this game will be in 90's

[illcat]

Either both Stanford and Oregon's defenses leave a little to be desired or both offenses are just plain sick.

[splitsecond]

both of these defenses lack discipline

[WildcatBlitz]

Is anyone going to cry about how both coaches are acting on the sidelines or is it just passion with everyone but Stoops?

[Machina]

stay classy Oregon student section

[cat77]

God Kelly 2 TO really??

[illcat]

Is anyone going to cry about how both coaches are acting on the sidelines or is it just passion with everyone but Stoops?

I was thinking the same thing, in fact Harbaugh was nailed for a 15 yarder very early in the game. So I can't complain about Stoops.

[Silversun]

hahaha i like how they cut out the audio twice when oregon chanted '**** these refs'

[illcat]

You got to hand it to those oregon fans......they still SUCK big time!!

[splitsecond]

haha, erin andrews calls out chippy, and chippy gives a fine-worthy response

[Silversun]

He says the refs and jim are friends then covered his ass at the end saying its not the refs fault lol

[cat77]

Wow listen to Andrews give it to Kelly about him barkin at the refs.........That's funny!!!!

What did Kelly say........"Jim must know somebody over there" or somthin like that. And then tried to clean it up with "It has nothin to do with the refs we just have to play better and not turn the ball over"

[Machina]

I love Stoops even more after this

[cat77]

I cant wait tell we play these teams.......I'm not sayin we will win but the games will be ones to remember for sure!!!!

[Taylor]

Chippy looks like he has a thing for pre-adolescent boys.

[walk-on-wildcat]

Bull crap call on the fake fair catch.:fur:

[Machina]

Chip Kelley = Douchelord

[WildcatBlitz]

I like the Stanford injury.....reminds me of soccer flops.

[cat77]

I like the Stanford injury.....reminds me of soccer flops.

My thoughts exactly.......gotta love harbaugh trying to turn this conference into a glorified soccer league. He always was a giant pu$$y and still is I guess!!!!!

[cat77]

Way to outrun your blockers on the fumble recovery..........Hope the Stanford kid is okay!!!

[WildcatBlitz]

big turnover, hope the kid is alright.

[WildcatBlitz]

Yikes, back-back turnovers

[cat77]

And here comes the quacking Duck's!!!

[Reydituto]

Ever since going up 21-3, Stanford has laid down like a pile of feces. Their offensive play calling is been atypically dumb, and their defense is like cheap swiss cheese, the kind with the really big holes that tastes like old shoes.

Either way, I think this game bodes well for UA, because I think they have the best defense of the 3. Hopefully the OL can improve and help UA run the ball better by November.

[budd1e_lee]

Huge defensive stand.

[WildcatBlitz]

Note to self: Luck in play action > Luck not in play action

[azpenguin]

Looks like Oregon made some hellacious defensive adjustments at halftime.

[Taylor]

Oregon would slaughter any SEC or Big 10 team right now.

[budd1e_lee]

I can't believe the O/U on this game was 65.

[ghostwhitehorse]

Bright god I hope our D has the Ducks number when we face them . . .

[azpenguin]

Arizona tends to match up well with Oregon. The Cats tend to play good assignment football on defense and that's what you have to do against the Ducks. The big problem against Oregon is the pace they play at. By the time the game's over, it feels like they've played five or six quarters.

[charcoal01]

andrew luck not having his best appearance tonight, just got picked again

[azpenguin]

That was the same thing Luck tried against Arizona at the end of the game last year. Throw it to the back left corner of the end zone and let your receiver go up and get it. Last year Trevin Wade broke it up. This time it got picked.

[Taylor]

52 more psussy 1/4 push-ups. :rolleyes:

[ZonaDefender1]

Karma is a b!tch oregon running the score up when you got the game won..

Lucky for you Karma is coming in the form from the only other team in the pac team that has just as many Unis as you..

Lets get that a$$ baby

[CalStateTempe]

Oregon is good. Lol.furds sucks.

[GlobalCat]

I'm pretty sure Furd's WR's have dropped more passes than they've caught

[GlobalCat]

What were the douches behind Erin Andrews saying that caused Chip to tell them to STFU?

[scumdevils86]

Haha Oregon students rushing the field and Kelly telling off the fans with Erin Andrews.

[Bob Dobalina]

What were the douches behind Erin Andrews saying that caused Chip to tell them to STFU?

"Chip filmed you!"

[F Duke]

What were the douches behind Erin Andrews saying that caused Chip to tell them to STFU?

Be afraid of UCLA!

[PieceOfMeat]

Furd is killin em so far.

Guess that's why they play the entire game.

[AZCoachB]

All I have to say is that Oregon and Stanford are clearly way overrated. This is Arizona's conference to lose, baby!!!!

[ZonaDefender1]

All I have to say is that Oregon and Stanford are clearly way overrated. This is Arizona's conference to lose, baby!!!!

after a rocky start, im firm in saying..

I LOVE YOU MAN!

[uacats]

All I have to say is that Oregon and Stanford are clearly way overrated. This is Arizona's conference to lose, baby!!!!

Notre Dame beat BC 31-13. Stanford beat ND

Stanford will go up two spots.

[F Duke]

I think they're both very good teams. Right now, Oregon's offense is head and shoulders above everyone in the nation. I'd like our chances at home but at their place would be tough. If we played on a neutral field, most people would say we'd win 70-80% of the time though.

[Zona Dave]

Oregon would slaughter any SEC or Big 10 team right now.

No doubt about that! That does include Bama (I absolutely hate them)!!

[Pop McKale]

All I have to say is that Oregon and Stanford are clearly way overrated. This is Arizona's conference to lose, baby!!!!

Not sure if this is tongue-in-cheek or what, but I think this is wrong. I will say Stanford's defense is still a liability. Marecic's a nice story, but the fact he's playing both ways should tell you something about their defensive depth.

Oregon goes on a 49-10 run after getting in the early hole. That's f***ing impressive. They sure look like the front-runner to me, and by a fair margin based on what I've seen from everyone in the Pac so far.

[rv81]

All I have to say is that Oregon and Stanford are clearly way overrated. This is Arizona's conference to lose, baby!!!!

Autzen still will account for some points for UO when we play them. I hope we can get off to a fast start to keep the crowd out of it. It doesn't hurt that we have an extra week to prepare for them. It also doesn't help that they have an extra week to prepare for us. Lots to take care of between now and then.

[BeachCat97]

I wonder if there's any chance of the Pac getting two teams into the BCS this year. I'd think that if someone runs the table, and then our 2nd or 3rd place team ends up with one loss, it could happen. For example, if Oregon goes undefeated and Stanford does not lose again, I could see them both getting in. It depends, of course, on what happens with other teams. But I'd just love to see two Pac teams playing on or after New Year's.

[Wildcat2012]

I think there is a really good chance the Pac-10 has two BCS teams, assuming we have two teams with no more than 2 losses. I think the conference's strong showing the non-conference opened people's eyes and as a result our teams will get some favorable rankings this year.

[catgrad97]

But not Arizona, no matter how well the Cats do.

Sorry, but after this game I still strongly feel that the national perception is that there is nobody else from the Pac who will be in Pasadena Jan. 1 other than Oregon or Stanford.

Arizona is the team with the best shot to prove that perception wrong, and it got absolutely no love tonight during the Stanford-UO broadcast.

And, to the pollsters' defense, the Cats--to a man, even among the coaches--didn't exactly play last week like they have been in the Top 15 before, much less deserve to be there. Just hope the Cats move off unlucky #13 or don't move down in next week's polls, as there really just isn't enough support anywhere to see a multispot ascension in the AP or coaches' rankings.

Ultimately, I am heartened by the outcome of tonight's Oregon-Stanford game. It certainly didn't begin that way. Stanford's 21-3 start was absolutely the best single-quarter performance of any Pac-10 team this season, just beating out our hot start against Iowa. Everything was hitting on all cylinders.

Thank God the Cardinal cooled off, or give Harbaugh the CCOY and Rose Bowl bid right now. They were taking all of Oregon's best punches and shoving them right back in Duck faces like they were nothing.

Andrew Luck, even after the loss, is ahead of Nick Foles as a dual-threat QB. He is not afraid to run at all and got a couple big gains as well as important first downs for Stanford tonight. Plus he pump-fakes and looks off receivers just as well as Foles at this point, if not better.

Arizona football has historically not had much of a mid-season learning curve. The next two months better change that or Luck and LaMichael James are going to just wear us down.

Oregon is an offensive machine and a second-half team. With the right improvements and careful study of the Ducks'--and Luck's--schemes, however, Arizona will be able to hold its own with both teams.

The way Stanford faded in the second half bodes particularly well for the Cats, as the Cardinal has the most ineffective home-field advantage in the conference. However, that Autzen Stadium advantage has stolen games from teams, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Chip Kelly work the refs enough to steal a win away from Stoops at home.

And speaking of working the refs, whoever in the media OR on this site watched this game and would still continue to call Mike Stoops' sideline antics "excessive," please shut up.

The only difference between how Stoops conducts himself during games and how Kelly and Harbaugh do the same is that Stoops hasn't learned how to strategically hold himself back and "make nice" with the intellectual giants of the West Coast, Pacific 10 officiating crews. The refs get what they perceive as "more respect" from the Stanford and Oregon coaches, while Stoops calls them out honestly, without holding back.

He also doesn't worry about making any friends on the crews, and that continues to cost his team on borderline calls. But the conference's "superior" coaches like Kelly and Harbaugh can, and did tonight, lose just as much control in any given sideline situation as Mike Stoops has. They just understand how to work it to their advantage better than he does right now.

All that being said, if this Arizona team gets back to playing like it started against Iowa and dedicates itself to improving its performance from that point, there is no reason why the Wildcats won't have just as good a shot at Roses as either Stanford or Oregon.

But it will take continuous drive to be the best--and an end to these relaxed, unfocused, sloppy games. This team CAN do it. Go Cats!

[rv81]

Andrew Luck, even after the loss, is ahead of Nick Foles as a dual-threat QB. He is not afraid to run at all and got a couple big gains as well as important first downs for Stanford tonight. Plus he pump-fakes and looks off receivers just as well as Foles at this point, if not better.



I think a lot of QBs are ahead of foles in the Dual threat department.:) As far as natural talent and ceiling, Luck is better than Foles (even though Luck runs like a duck, he has a great penchant for getting a first down with his legs when nothing is there, not to mention that he ran down that UO DB and pushed him out of bounds). That said, I'll take my chances with foles. Dude is a gamer and a flat out winner.

[Reydituto]

I think they're both very good teams. Right now, Oregon's offense is head and shoulders above everyone in the nation. I'd like our chances at home but at their place would be tough. If we played on a neutral field, most people would say we'd win 70-80% of the time though.
That's better than Sex Panther!

[catgrad97]

I think a lot of QBs are ahead of foles in the Dual threat department.:) As far as natural talent and ceiling, Luck is better than Foles (even though Luck runs like a duck, he has a great penchant for getting a first down with his legs when nothing is there, not to mention that he ran down that UO DB and pushed him out of bounds). That said, I'll take my chances with foles. Dude is a gamer and a flat out winner.

Oh, I would too, and I meant that post as no slam against Foles.

Luck is the more pro-style QB, and I have a hunch he'll go higher in the draft--even though Foles IMO has the higher ceiling overall.

But Nick, like he's said himself this weekend, needs to continue to improve his offensive abilities in all areas. The spread can be choked off by even an average defense if that O cannot make the D respect the run.

And right now, our overall rushing attack is 90th in the NCAA--and Nick Foles couldn't sell that he could run to Andrea Bocelli. (Yes, you'll just have to figure out who I'm talking about, as Ray Charles is dead and the Stevie Wonder reference is getting old. :) )

I sincerely hope Arizona can respond to the bye week by putting OSU away early next Saturday. Get the run going immediately, let the spread fill the remaining gaps and not let an inferior team like the Beavs or Wazzu hang around, as lesser UA teams have been notorious for doing.

[illcat]

The one weakness I see with Oregon other than their fans being idiots. Is the D does give up the big play where they let receivers get behind the secondary. So it's a good thing their offense put up the points. Oregon in my estimation is just plain good.
I'd stack them up against any team in the very overrated SEC except Alabama.

[ZonaDefender1]

Oh, I would too, and I meant that post as no slam against Foles.

Luck is the more pro-style QB, and I have a hunch he'll go higher in the draft--even though Foles IMO has the higher ceiling overall.

But Nick, like he's said himself this weekend, needs to continue to improve his offensive abilities in all areas. The spread can be choked off by even an average defense if that O cannot make the D respect the run.

And right now, our overall rushing attack is 90th in the NCAA--and Nick Foles couldn't sell that he could run to Andrea Bocelli. (Yes, you'll just have to figure out who I'm talking about, as Ray Charles is dead and the Stevie Wonder reference is getting old. :) )

I sincerely hope Arizona can respond to the bye week by putting OSU away early next Saturday. Get the run going immediately, let the spread fill the remaining gaps and not let an inferior team like the Beavs or Wazzu hang around, as lesser UA teams have been notorious for doing.

the rushing attack is 90 because Grigsby is getting most the runs. I wish the coaching staff would acknowledge grigsby is a slot back not a featured tailback. KA and Nwoko should get the rock more than grigsby. when he is about to carry the ball i get the knot circa mike bell in my stomach.

dude dances way to much and until we get his a$$ out of there the cal game isnt going to be an isolated game. Defenses are going to play zone all day. Does anyone think thats the last time we are going to see that D cal ran. Nope everyone is gonna scheme that way. We need a NORTH--SOUTH runner. Nwoko gives us great push, see him maybe 4 plays a game, I forgot Keola was even on the team. Grigsby fumbles, dances and really isnt effective unless he is out in the open field

[Reydituto]

the rushing attack is 90 because Grigsby is getting most the runs. I wish the coaching staff would acknowledge grigsby is a slot back not a featured tailback. KA and Nwoko should get the rock more than grigsby. when he is about to carry the ball i get the knot circa mike bell in my stomach.

dude dances way to much and until we get his a$$ out of there the cal game isnt going to be an isolated game. Defenses are going to play zone all day. Does anyone think thats the last time we are going to see that D cal ran. Nope everyone is gonna scheme that way. We need a NORTH--SOUTH runner. Nwoko gives us great push, see him maybe 4 plays a game, I forgot Keola was even on the team. Grigsby fumbles, dances and really isnt effective unless he is out in the open field

Couldn't disagree more. The problem with he running game is the OL, specifically your bro Dotsy being injured and slow to regain playing shape. It's not Grigs, he's still the best RB on the roster, still the most complete back, still the HR hitter. Keola I think seeks out contact instead of trying to avoid it, classic little-man's syndrome. Nwoko was TERRIBLE against Cal last week, dude also ran to contact all night. The running game will struggle though no matter which RB is in there until the OL improves their run-blocking.

[ZonaDefender1]

Couldn't disagree more. The problem with he running game is the OL, specifically your bro Dotsy being injured and slow to regain playing shape. It's not Grigs, he's still the best RB on the roster, still the most complete back, still the HR hitter. Keola I think seeks out contact instead of trying to avoid it, classic little-man's syndrome. Nwoko was TERRIBLE against Cal last week, dude also ran to contact all night. The running game will struggle though no matter which RB is in there until the OL improves their run-blocking.

PM me

[CalStateTempe]

Again, I will stand by conviction that the result of the Cal game is how Arizona vs Cal games generally go and is not and indictment on this year's team at this moment in time.

Its really unfair and shortsighted to point to this game as evidence that we are undeserving of our ranking. Lets just let it play out.

[WildcatBlitz]

I am not sure why we are talking about rushing in this thread but I wanted to share some info.

Arizona: National rank followed by actual number
Rushing attempts/game: 110th @ 29.25
Rushing average/ attempt: 63rd @ 4.11
Yards/game: 93rd @ 120.25

The reason I bring these number up is that you can not blame just one unit. The coaches are calling an incredible low amount of rushing plays while the Oline and RB's are holding to a 4.11 yards/attempt. I have to say that is decent, but I don't think either are terrible. Average rushing and above average passing is pretty good for me.