Spring Depth Chart

[thebauks]

I just saw this depth chart on the official web site. Thought all might be interested.

WR: Criner, Hill
IR: Morrison, Wharton
IR: Roberts, Miller
WR: Douglas, Buckner, Slavin
TE: J Baucus, Robinson
LT: M Baucus, Spurgeon
LG: Putton, Lees
C: Quinn, Bachman
RG: Biskin, Bender-Ramsey
RT: Ebbele, Zink
QB: Foles, Scott, Beirne
RB: Antolin, Jenkins, Nwoko
HB: Tutogi, Oltorik

DE: Parish, Austin
DT: Washington, Mobley
DT: Tuihalamaka, Merrill
DE: Usman, Pettinato
OLB: Fischer, Benson
MLB: Earls, Muhammed
OLB: Vassallo, Muhammed
CB: Golden, McKnight
FS: Hall, Robbins
SS: Flowers, Watley
CB: Wade, Richardson

P: Dugandzic
K: Zendejas, Ortiz
KO: Bonano
LS: Gorham
Ret: Wharton, Antolin, Morrison, Douglas, Buckner

NOTE: There are, of course, two fall JUCOs (De Rego & Salazar) that will compete at DE and K.

[uacats]

Linebacker as a unit is a problem.

Nwoko is done for the year.

[verbs]

I thought we signed another QB?

[verbs]

Linebacker as a unit is a problem.

Nwoko is done for the year.

Just read up on that, torn ACL, damn. :(

[UA Direct]

Linebacker as a unit is a problem.

Nwoko is done for the year.

WR Buckner will be an absolute f'ing stud.

OL Dotsy? Shouldn't he return by fall?

RB Hope Nwoko can make a speedy recovery.

[Winger]

Heard Adam Hall went down today with a knee injury as well and that the new field may be part of the problem.

[UA Direct]

Heard Adam Hall went down today with a knee injury as well and that the new field may be part of the problem.

WTF??? Do they have live animal traps/'pits with lions in them or something???

[What I See]

I thought we signed another QB?

Savage has to sit a year

Dotsy has retired

[budd1e_lee]

I thought we signed another QB?

Savage has to sit a year

There was Cameron Allerheiligen also. He left the program to play baseball.

[What I See]

Heard Adam Hall went down today with a knee injury as well and that the new field may be part of the problem.

Turf field?

who's DE Parish? Surprised that Fanene hasn't popped in the rotation, but he's only a RS Freshman

[UA Direct]

Dotsy has retired

Amazing what you miss when you take 18 months off to build your dream house. Wonder why on Dotsy?

[What I See]

Amazing what you miss when you take 18 months off to build your dream house. Wonder why on Dotsy?

Continued back problems. IMO...he was to damn big for his frame, and he killed his back. Should have been at least 60lbs lighter than he was and is.

Pics of the house?

[UA Direct]

Turf field?

who's DE Parish? Surprised that Fanene hasn't popped in the rotation, but he's only a RS Freshman

Another name I expected to surface...Solomon Koehler. Bet I missed some important tidbit here as well.

[uacats]

WR Buckner will be an absolute f'ing stud.

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Buckner is a bigger/faster Criner.

[UA Direct]

Continued back problems. IMO...he was to damn big for his frame, and he killed his back. Should have been at least 60lbs lighter than he was and is.

Pics of the house?

I know about back problems. Had L-4 surgery on the right side a couple years ago. Recovered, built the house...

Much of why I'm back now is 4 broken ribs on the right side, and impending L-4/L-5 surgery on the left side.

Haven't taken any pics yet...except of my shop and my shed...1150 square foot of fire wreckage. Will post the house when I can.

Not to highjack the thread...Salazar looks like he might be our kicker, OL is our big concern...WR is the strength if Foles has time to throw. DE is an issue, as well as LB depth. Tiny will be important - as a blocker at the minimum.

[UA Direct]

Buckner is a bigger/faster Criner.

Didn't think he was bigger...bout the same, but I'll take 2 'Criners' any day over just about any other receiving group out there.

I'm D. Allen, and I approve this message.

[Winger]

Hall done for year I think.

[barringer97]

Hall done for year I think.

Great. He's our best player.

[RecentAZConvert]

Hall done for year I think.

Winger, you are ... the MRI is today and there is no speculation to the severity. Might only be a Grade 1 tear. Quit spreading "gloom and doom" about nothing you know about personally.

They will know more later today. Wish Adam all the best.

[EndOfAnEra]

F.O.L if Adam is done.

[WildcatBlitz]

Arizona hasn't received good news in a long time. Hall was the emotion of the defense. OkSt was pushing us all over and he was the only one man enough to do something about it. He really will be missed. Who is the backup/starter now?

[FUKSPARKY]

Buckner is a bigger/faster Criner.
You have got to be smokin' some serious siht bro!!!
Great. He's our best player.
No.No he's not. Not even by a long shot!!
Winger, you are an idiot; the MRI is today and there is no speculation to the severity. Might only be a Grade 1 tear. Quit spreading "gloom and doom" about nothing you know about personally.

They will know more later today. Wish Adam all the best.
Hahah..hope ur right buddy!!Wish u all the best Adam!! ;)

[Cats101]

Hall done for year I think.

I surely hope not.

[tucsonpaint]

Solomon Koehler left the team at least a year ago.

[tucsonpaint]

If what I read here about Adam is true---and I sure hope it's not, Adam still has a RS year to take, so that would be a little silver lining on a nasty dark cloud.

[catgrad97]

Ross Oltorik is our only other option at H-back?!?! :eyes:

He was a backup QB at Ohio freaking State. He's going to get killed out there running what we do for the H-back.

Really hoping like hell that Hall will be able to come back by fall.

As for Buckner, I agree he's not at Criner's level yet, but how he is not first-string over David Douglas (who really should be moved back into the interior as a slot guy for over-the-middle throws) is another one of Stoops' mysterious personnel quirks which always go unexplained.

Mr. Bauk, have you heard about some new wrinkles in the playbook for TE yet? Would really love to see Jack make more of the position than AJ Simmons did.

That O-line is the biggest no-name unit Arizona has had since Erik Levitre was a starter in this program. Should have plenty to prove.

The lack of depth at linebacker for the second straight season is, frankly, inexcusable. Everyone does realize that it's going to be Fischer and two converted backups starting at the positions in 2012, right?

Bag on me all you want if I project undue pessimism. I'm just very concerned about how some key positions are going to be developed this season--if at all in the case of TE, K and LB.

I want all of these guys to succeed, but even the most positive Arizona football fans among us have to concede that early buzz from this spring is totally down from where it was a year ago. I was hoping to hear better news about the depth at key positions and how those guys are competing in practice.

I will be patient, though, and hold off on further comment until the scrimmage. Should be better news by then.

[uacats]

You have got to be smokin' some serious siht bro!!!

)


Buckner is bigger and faster........smokin' stuff would be if I said he ran better routes.

[Merkin]

Why isn't Bonano on the depth chart for FGs? Didn't he nail one in scrimmage that Z had blocked on the previous play?

Read where Buckner has been working with Foles after practice to get his timing down.

Are they still planning to RS Scott? See him #2.

[FUKSPARKY]

Buckner is bigger and faster........smokin' stuff would be if I said he ran better routes.

Buck is not faster than JBAMA my man!!! sorry..and he may have bigger biceps but he isn't stronger either and as for the third part you sir are correct db does not run better routes than Juron. That said Buck is a fer certain stud but Juron is a pro bowler in 3 years. Anywho..splittin' hairs here seeing as they are both big time Cats who truly want the best for each other.

[dc4azcats]

Buckner is bigger and faster........smokin' stuff would be if I said he ran better routes.

True - he is bigger and faster. If you haven't seen them standing side by side you might not believe it but it is true

Buck is not faster than JBAMA my man!!! sorry..and he may have bigger biceps but he isn't stronger either and as for the third part you sir are correct db does not run better routes than Juron. That said Buck is a fer certain stud but Juron is a pro bowler in 3 years. Anywho..splittin' hairs here seeing as they are both big time Cats who truly want the best for each other.

Dan Buckner after practices will race anybody and from what I've heard - he hasn't lost a race yet. For football speed - he might be the fastest on the team - no joke.

[Farva]

*Buckner is probably a little bigger than Criner, but certainly not faster. If he was, then he'd probably be the best receiver in the nation.


*Adam Hall going down would be a blow to this team.. But what he is more than anything, is a hard-hitter. That's a plus, when it comes to pumping up the team and fans, and setting an emotional tone even. But he was also the cause of quite a few penalties late in the year, and often was hit or miss. Nonetheless, I knew he'd be improved this year and smarter as well, so it's a damn shame if he can't play this season.


*Our O-line just might be OK. Our veteran O-line last year certainly wasn't too great.

[dc4azcats]

*Buckner is probably a little bigger than Criner, but certainly not faster. If he was, then he'd probably be the best receiver in the nation.


*Adam Hall going down would be a blow to this team.. But what he is more than anything, is a hard-hitter. That's a plus, when it comes to pumping up the team and fans, and setting an emotional tone even. But he was also the cause of quite a few penalties late in the year, and often was hit or miss. Nonetheless, I knew he'd be improved this year and smarter as well, so it's a damn shame if he can't play this season.


*Our O-line just might be OK. Our veteran O-line last year certainly wasn't too great.

Dan Buckner is taller than Juron Criner - go to the Spring game and see the two standing side by side. Honestly - it's not even close and by that I mean you won't go -oh okay he's taller but it's real close - it's not.

Here's Foles take and even thought the 2 deep says something different Criner and Buckner will be starters on the outside:

On having receiver Juron Criner on one side and Dan Buckner on the other side:

FOLES: “What I love about Juron is that he is really pushing it this year. He’s not satisfied. He wants to be the best receiver in the nation. And he doesn’t just say it; he goes out and puts in the work. Dan is the same way. You’ve got David Douglas, Dave Roberts, Terrence (Miller), all those guys as a whole … what’s neat about them is they’re buddies, they work together, they have fun, they compete. They will tell each other the truth. They will keep it real with one another, like, ‘Hey, man, you’ve got to run your route better.’ I think they could be a very good group. …

“I’m a very lucky quarterback, no doubt. But I have to continue to push these guys. I want them to get to where they need to be. They can always better. Juron will tell you straight up, he can be better. He had a great year, but you have to have guys around you. Juron isn’t doing it by himself. He makes some great plays, but we have receivers that threaten and take away the safeties and all those things. They are a good group, but I want them to be great. They all want to be the best. That’s what I love about them. As a quarterback, I’m not going to tell them that. I want to push them to be better than they thought they could be.”

Buckner can play and will be a huge part of the offense.


http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatreport/2011/03/30/qa-with-arizona-wildcats-quarterback-nick-foles/

[EndOfAnEra]

Buckner was killing it at Texas FYI. He was their second option I believe as a freaking Sophomore. He's more physical than finesse. Criner is the bomb guy and Buckner is the outmuscle guy.

[Winger]

Winger, you are ... the MRI is today and there is no speculation to the severity. Might only be a Grade 1 tear. Quit spreading "gloom and doom" about nothing you know about personally.

They will know more later today. Wish Adam all the best.

What are your sources telling you as of now RecentAZConvert?

[kylecollins]

Ross Oltorik is our only other option at H-back?!?! :eyes:

He was a backup QB at Ohio freaking State. He's going to get killed out there running what we do for the H-back.

Really hoping like hell that Hall will be able to come back by fall.

As for Buckner, I agree he's not at Criner's level yet, but how he is not first-string over David Douglas (who really should be moved back into the interior as a slot guy for over-the-middle throws) is another one of Stoops' mysterious personnel quirks which always go unexplained.

Mr. Bauk, have you heard about some new wrinkles in the playbook for TE yet? Would really love to see Jack make more of the position than AJ Simmons did.

That O-line is the biggest no-name unit Arizona has had since Erik Levitre was a starter in this program. Should have plenty to prove.

The lack of depth at linebacker for the second straight season is, frankly, inexcusable. Everyone does realize that it's going to be Fischer and two converted backups starting at the positions in 2012, right?

Bag on me all you want if I project undue pessimism. I'm just very concerned about how some key positions are going to be developed this season--if at all in the case of TE, K and LB.

I want all of these guys to succeed, but even the most positive Arizona football fans among us have to concede that early buzz from this spring is totally down from where it was a year ago. I was hoping to hear better news about the depth at key positions and how those guys are competing in practice.

I will be patient, though, and hold off on further comment until the scrimmage. Should be better news by then.

Who cares what position the guy use to play. Some QBs have the body for HB. Have you already forgot about Tebow?

Buckner over douglas- again, who cares? This is the depth chart released for tghe first week of spring practice. If thats the case going into the first week of the season then we have something to ***** about. There is absolutely nothing official about the depth chart right now. I doubt whoever did it even tried. It looks like last years with names just filled in for the departed players.

LB will be fine come fall. Along with the 5 guys we have now we add 3 more. 8 LBs is enough. And come next year we shouldnt have to rely upon 2 "converted backups"(whatever that means). We got Fischer, Benson will be a JR, and 3 guys coming in this year that look really good who should be ready to go by year 2. As for being inexcusable, **** happens. We have signed 13 LBs in the past 4 classes. Its not like the coaches have ignored the position. We have just gotten unlucky with some players leaving, like with DE the past couple years. PLayers are always going to trasfer and if a few of them from the same position do it then stuff like this happens. But there is really nothing the coaches can do about it unless they have a crystal ball and can see what position is going to get hit like that.

Early buzz from the spring is down becuase apparently there is no access to the spring. All we have heard is who has left. We havnt heard anything about how hard these guys are going at it or who is stepping up.

[thebauks]

Mr. Bauk, have you heard about some new wrinkles in the playbook for TE yet? Would really love to see Jack make more of the position than AJ Simmons did.



None that I can share. I guess we'll all have to show up for the scrimmages and see what is rolled out. I, too, would love to see the TE more involved, but that is much of a player's parent talking as someone who knows football. Mr. Bauk.

[uacats]

LB will be fine come fall. Along with the 5 guys we have now we add 3 more. 8 LBs is enough. And come next year we shouldnt have to rely upon 2 "converted backups"(whatever that means). We got Fischer, Benson will be a JR, and 3 guys coming in this year that look really good who should be ready to go by year 2. As for being inexcusable, **** happens. We have signed 13 LBs in the past 4 classes. Its not like the coaches have ignored the position. We have just gotten unlucky with some players leaving, like with DE the past couple years. PLayers are always going to trasfer and if a few of them from the same position do it then stuff like this happens. But there is really nothing the coaches can do about it unless they have a crystal ball and can see what position is going to get hit like that.

Early buzz from the spring is down becuase apparently there is no access to the spring. All we have heard is who has left. We havnt heard anything about how hard these guys are going at it or who is stepping up.


Starting LB's
1. One Pac 10 legit solid player
2. One with a lot of heart but very undersized
3. One sub Pac 10 level

[Farva]

Starting LB's
1. One Pac 10 legit solid player
2. One with a lot of heart but very undersized
3. One sub Pac 10 level

So you're saying Earls is "sub Pac-10 level"? Disagree. He did tail off toward the end of the season, when Vassallo started to really tear it up. But even when Earls wasn't making big plays or big hits, his play was still solid.

[Winger]

uacats I don't disagree with your assessment, but I think our LB play will be on par with what it was last season. Here is some garbage I put up on Premium, a lot of what I feel comes from a single source at practices fwtiw.

I agree with you Mr. B.

There's no way our offensive line can be worse this season, I have posted this opinion multiple times on the free boards, but line play is what is keeping Arizona a 7-5ish regular season team. We will definitely score more points this season, as our QB and WR positions will be improved, RB will be the same, and OL has to better as it can't possibly be worse. I don't think we have the talent to be an elite OL, but I think there is a strong possibility that the group can be the best we've had under Stoops (admittedly not saying a whole lot). It's certainly the best physical-ability group we have had to date.

The loss of Hall really hurts the defense. But I agree with your assessment there as well. Most of our defensive strengths, secondary aside, were overblown myths last season. I can't see how the DL can be worse, and in fact I would bet big $$ that it will be better. Our LB play last season was spotty at best and we again replace with some quality, especially physically. Plus defense is Stoops' deal, and until I see a truly bad defense under him, he gets the benefit of the doubt. We have replaced much more, recently, and continued to play at a high level.

Special teams was a disaster last season. For certain the worst I have ever seen at this level of play. Again I can't imagine how they could be any worse this season. Problem here is for a team of Arizona's quality, special teams are hugely important, by my estimation, costing the team at least 2 wins last season. I have not seen good special teams under Stoops (aside from kick coverage) and in opposite of my opinion of Arizona's defense always being good, I will believe our special teams will be good once I see it.

[uacats]

[QUOTE=Winger;1598862]uacats I don't disagree with your assessment, but I think our LB play will be on par with what it was last season. Here is some garbage I put up on Premium, a lot of what I feel comes from a single source at practices fwtiw.



LB play on par with last season is truly scary with both Reeds and Elmore gone.

[Winger]

I disagree with that as well, to the extent that the rep of the play of Reed and Elmore last season was >>> reality.

Both very good players and better than what their replacements are likely to be this season, but, how many sacks/TFL/QB hurries did our DL/DEs have against good teams last season?

I honestly can't remember 1, though it's likely that memory fails to some degree.

Got some pressure on ASU but that may have been the only OL in college football worse than ours.

Pretty much a shut out otherwise.

I'd bet significant amounts of $$ that, on a points/game basis, our defense this season will be = or > than last season's.

[dc4azcats]

I disagree with that as well, to the extent that the rep of the play of Reed and Elmore last season was >>> reality.

Both very good players and better than what their replacements are likely to be this season, but, how many sacks/TFL/QB hurries did our DL/DEs have against good teams last season?

I honestly can't remember 1, though it's likely that memory fails to some degree.

Got some pressure on ASU but that may have been the only OL in college football worse than ours.

Pretty much a shut out otherwise.

I'd bet significant amounts of $$ that, on a points/game basis, our defense this season will be = or > than last season's.

Iowa's last offensive series and unfortunately we never showed that kind of push the rest of the season.