View Full Version : Ben's favorite player going to the bullpen
05-13-2004, 04:31 PM
I don't understand why. The guy is dominant.
Colangelo should keep all the horrible starting pitchers he trades for and signs and make a starting rotation out of them.
Between Albie Lopez, Rick Helling, Elmer Dessens, Matt Mantei (make him a starter) and Casey Daigle, you could have the worst starting rotation in the history of baseball.
The only way to make that group worse is if Bob Brenly was the pitching coach.
05-13-2004, 04:35 PM
Don't forget about Brian Anderson!
edit: BA is 1-4, 7.15 ERA, 70 Hits (10 HRs) in 45 IP
05-13-2004, 04:36 PM
It's about time for 80 pitch Elmer to go to the bullpen. He may actually do a good job, as his starts are usually decent for the first 4-5 innings, before he hits 80 pitches and begins to suck. The Diamondbacks need to stop screwing up their pitching staff. Batista should have been resigned, Villareal should be starting and Durazo should have been traded for someone good (NOT Dessens).
05-13-2004, 04:37 PM
Brian Anderson isn't bad enough to be on that list, he actually has been decent at some points in his career- unlike the others.
05-13-2004, 04:38 PM
Albie Lopez and Rick Helling were both 20 win pitchers at one time..........
Brian Anderson definately belongs on that list.
05-13-2004, 04:42 PM
Albie Lopez? 20 wins? I've had as many 20 win seasons as Albie Lopez.
He did have 19 losses though, so he deseves props for that.
05-13-2004, 04:42 PM
Albie's career high in wins is 11, but he did LOSE 19 once.
Helling did win 20, but he had a 4.5 ERA
BA isn't much better than Helling, but he was relatively successful while actually on the DBacks.
05-13-2004, 04:43 PM
My bad, I had him confused with someone else....
Although 11 wins with Tampa Bay is like 20 with anyone else.........
Helling was the ace of the Rangers team that won the division 3 out of 5 years.
He wasnt bad at all back than. Alot better than Brian f'n Anderson.
05-13-2004, 04:50 PM
Batista is 0-3 with a 4.98 ERA, but he has pitched OK. Going from the NL West to the AL East is brutal. The 6-7-8 hitters he is facing now are better than the 3-4-5 hitters he faced last year.
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