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Irish27
06-05-2004, 12:31 AM
I heard a rumor he lives in Canada.

Chicat
06-05-2004, 10:03 AM
I heard that he's hiding out in a spider hole in Tikrit. <img src=/images/smilies/roll.gif alt="roll" border=0>

stewbacka
06-07-2004, 11:36 PM
Poor guy. I felt bad for him when he booted that easy ground ball and then again when he could not get a big hit in game 7.

Az_Doc
06-08-2004, 07:14 AM
i thought they found him dead behind wrigley field

Chicat
06-08-2004, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by stewbacka
Poor guy. I felt bad for him when he booted that easy ground ball and then again when he could not get a big hit in game 7.

Yeah, he was having a bad week, especially after he gave up that homer to Aaron Boone.

stewbacka
06-08-2004, 01:43 PM
Chicats
That is not fair most Red Sox fans blame actual players and management. Not some fan who would have done what 85% of us would have done.

Chicat
06-08-2004, 02:11 PM
I know Stew, I just wanted to needle you a little bit on an otherwise slow Tuesday morning. :p

Contrary to popular belief, no one is out to get Bartman here in Chicago. Most people's reactions now are, "that poor man." Cubs fans are used to the heartbreak and don't really fault any one person or player for the team's failures. Most blame the Tribune Company for not spending the money to go out and get the players the team needs even though the stadium is always packed and they have a sweetheart of a tv deal. They'll get to the World Series one of these days, and Bartman, the Goat, and the rest of the curse will be forgotten . . . at least until another century without a ring goes by.

Chicat
10-15-2013, 12:33 PM
It's been ten years...

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At 53:20 you can see my buddy Troy wearing a white Cubs jersey and a backwards hat screaming "F*CK YOU!!!"

EastCoastCat
10-15-2013, 03:41 PM
Maybe he should have said f@ck you to the SS Gonzalez and the Cubs pitchers for giving up 8 runs.

Chicat
10-15-2013, 03:50 PM
Maybe he should have said f@ck you to the SS Gonzalez and the Cubs pitchers for giving up 8 runs.

Absolutely, but I can understand where he was mentally that night. A lot of people (Bartman included) listen to the radio on headphones at Wrigley because sight lines are terrible and there is no giant screen to see replays. So a lot of times you're wondering what the hell just happened and you'll ask anyone around you what they are saying on the radio if you're not listening yourself. So on the radio they were pointing him out and describing him and before you know it the whole stadium thinks the guy in the turtleneck and glasses just cost the Cubs a chance to be in the World Series.

I watched at a bar about 6 blocks north of Wrigley with my wife and friends, including a guy who was wearing pretty much Bartman's outfit (dark sweatshirt, turtleneck, blue Cubs hat, glasses). After the game I said to him, you better take off the turtleneck and the hat or your liable to get lynched. I was joking at the time, but then we stepped out onto the street and we see this group of guys coming at us and they stopped and asked us if we'd seen "the nerd who touched the ball" because they were looking for him and were going to f*ck him up bad.

I had never seen anything so crazy and scary in my life as Wrigleyville that night. People were out for blood. I was pissed too, but I'm certainly no lifelong Cubs fan and I was more mad in general that the Cubs had blown it and that I wouldn't be able to see Wrigley celebrate a World Series appearance. But people were looking to find Bartman on the street and tear him limb from limb. Totally nuts...

wosn99
10-15-2013, 07:09 PM
Have you guys seen the 30 for 30 on Bartman? Good stuff. I worked with a lifelong Cubs fan at that time and to see his face as that inning unfolded was so sad to see. I really wanted to see the Cubs make it that year. Would have been cool.

Officer Craig
10-16-2013, 01:34 AM
Up next on Netflix, can't wait!

EastCoastCat
10-16-2013, 09:27 AM
Absolutely, but I can understand where he was mentally that night. A lot of people (Bartman included) listen to the radio on headphones at Wrigley because sight lines are terrible and there is no giant screen to see replays. So a lot of times you're wondering what the hell just happened and you'll ask anyone around you what they are saying on the radio if you're not listening yourself. So on the radio they were pointing him out and describing him and before you know it the whole stadium thinks the guy in the turtleneck and glasses just cost the Cubs a chance to be in the World Series.

I watched at a bar about 6 blocks north of Wrigley with my wife and friends, including a guy who was wearing pretty much Bartman's outfit (dark sweatshirt, turtleneck, blue Cubs hat, glasses). After the game I said to him, you better take off the turtleneck and the hat or your liable to get lynched. I was joking at the time, but then we stepped out onto the street and we see this group of guys coming at us and they stopped and asked us if we'd seen "the nerd who touched the ball" because they were looking for him and were going to f*ck him up bad.

I had never seen anything so crazy and scary in my life as Wrigleyville that night. People were out for blood. I was pissed too, but I'm certainly no lifelong Cubs fan and I was more mad in general that the Cubs had blown it and that I wouldn't be able to see Wrigley celebrate a World Series appearance. But people were looking to find Bartman on the street and tear him limb from limb. Totally nuts...

I get it...years and years of frustration never winning a world series can cause people to not think clearly, but let's face it if you plugged in any Cubs fan in Bartman's seat they would have all done the exact same thing. Not one single fan has the wherewithal to think at that moment "hey, I have a chance to catch this foul ball but I better make sure I don't interfere with the fielders right to catch it." And what about the 3 or 4 other fans trying desparately to get at that ball? Their actions were exactly the same but they get a free pass because they have terrible hand eye coordination.

The irony always gets to me because it's not about the act itself - interfering with a foul ball - but who the act affects. If Jeffrey Maier reaches over the fence at a ball hit by an Oriole instead of a Yankee he would have been torn to bits by the Bleacher Creatures in right field. Instead, he has been lionized by Yankee fans over the years.

WilczynskiB
10-16-2013, 12:38 PM
Have you guys seen the 30 for 30 on Bartman? Good stuff. I worked with a lifelong Cubs fan at that time and to see his face as that inning unfolded was so sad to see. I really wanted to see the Cubs make it that year. Would have been cool.

It's fantastic!! Strongly recommend it.

Chicat
10-16-2013, 01:01 PM
what about the 3 or 4 other fans trying desparately to get at that ball? Their actions were exactly the same but they get a free pass because they have terrible hand eye coordination.

I agree. And watching a number of replays at the time clearly showed that if Bartman hadn't touched the ball, Looney or someone else probably would have. But those in the stadium didn't have any replays to go off of. All they knew was that the dorky guy in the turtleneck and Walkman likely cost the Cubs a chance to go to the World Series (which he obviously didn't). So as much of a pass as we extend to Bartman, I think we can extend a little bit of a pass to those who were in the stadium and caught up in the emotion of the moment and likely not thinking straight.

I get it...years and years of frustration never winning a world series can cause people to not think clearly, but let's face it if you plugged in any Cubs fan in Bartman's seat they would have all done the exact same thing. Not one single fan has the wherewithal to think at that moment "hey, I have a chance to catch this foul ball but I better make sure I don't interfere with the fielders right to catch it."
I actually got a chance to sit in what was probably Bartman's seat at Wrigley but down the right field side a few years back and when a foul ball ended up coming near us but in play, everyone around me (including me) was holding each other back from leaning over the wall and/or reaching up. No one wants to be Bartman. But had that ball been off the bat of a Cub, you're damn right we were going to try and get the ball without leaning over and interfering with the fielder. Maybe people are more savvy now.

But as I think Buckner says in the documentary, even if you put a major league ballplayer in Bartman's seat in that situation, they'd also likely be reaching up and out for the ball. It's pretty much human nature.

Chicat
10-16-2013, 01:02 PM
Have you guys seen the 30 for 30 on Bartman? Good stuff. I worked with a lifelong Cubs fan at that time and to see his face as that inning unfolded was so sad to see. I really wanted to see the Cubs make it that year. Would have been cool.

I linked it up above. Watch at your leisure...