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Ben Hansen
02-06-2003, 07:02 PM
If Arizona begins the year with a loss or two, all of these UA message boards will turn into BRO and/or BruinZone with the two warring factions of pro and anti-Mackovic clans. It will be a mess and it will be counterproductive, sad as it is to say so.

And just so everyone is clear, I am not my dad and we don't share the same opinions on everything so don't group me into the Mackovic haters club. I don't think he's done anything special as a coach so far, but it seems likely that his players may not have been giving their all for him throughout most of last year.

I was impressed to a degree about the recruits he was able to sign because I was one of those who thought the player revolt would kill recruiting to no end. But apparently it was just my dad and Terrence who did that (kidding). I am cautiously optimistic about the team this year but they are very, very young, especially at some key positions.

Mack has said that he wants to be more hands-on with the QBs and that is a must in my opinion. He has produced good QBs in the past and O'Hara, Nic Costa and Kovalcheck need some tutelage from a guy with a good history of developing young arms.

What I worry about most, however, is the defensive line - again. Doesn't matter how good the secondary is (which is my favorite group of players at UA) if they have to chase WRs around for five seconds every passing play. I don't think Mackovic or his staff really found enough impact D-Linemen to improve that position tremendously. And definitely not enough to get Arizona's defense to a point where it can dominate games and, thus, win games.

Here's the real problem. A couple of early losses and suddenly the apathy of the fans will hit an all-time high because of the last two years and Tomey's final year. And if no one comes to games, Mackovic will likely not be asked back in 2004 and the Mack Era will be considered a huge black mark on the history of Arizona's football program.

The key for Mack saving his job will be coming out hot and winning the first two or three games. That should be enough to get the fans excited for most of the season.

One last prediction: Mack and my dad will become golfing partners very soon and sit next to each other on all the team's flights.

Right.

-Ben

Josh Gershon
02-06-2003, 07:23 PM
I agree with much of what you say, however, it would be very disappointing if Cats fans get too down on the team this year. Not only is this a very young team with a (likely) freshman quarterback, but they are playing the hardest non-conference schedule Arizona has had in a while.

While the fans may not be behind Mackovic, the very high majority of players now are. They WILL "compeeeeeeete" for Mackovic this year, and they while they will be picked last, they won't end up that way.

I am not worried about Washington State, Oregon, Stanford, Cal and Oregon State next year. We should finish better than at least two of those schools, at worst.

I have heard VERY promising reports of O'Hara from both players and people who have watched him lately. The D-Line is worriesome, as is the O-Line, but Torrey's return to the D-line next season will be very big. So will Parada to the O-line.

Next season won't be Arizona's best ever. But the year after, Arizona should have a very good team. If Mackovic can recruit this well under those circumstances, imagine what he can do with a winning team.

steal your cat
02-07-2003, 05:40 PM
I think the Cats certainly will be better than last year (cant get much worse) and will definately put forth more effort. AZCAT-great call on compeeeeete. However, it is very unfortunate that our program is at the level its at year after year. UofA is really a mediocre program. Some years we are competitive and some we are not. The Pac-10 is the most wide open major conference in the country in that there are not a few teams that dominate year after year. While there are at least 5 teams that have a chance to win the Pac next year, Arizona is again not one of them. I just dont see the potential on defense, especially the d-line and linebackers, to have a chance to win. Competing for a bowl birth should not be the goal. Yet year after year its seems it is. Anyone else tired of the mediocrity?

NewportCat
02-08-2003, 01:06 PM
during my time here in school I have accepted the Fact that I go to a Basketball school not a football school. Our football is usually ok with some years of being good but those are few and far between. I love Arizona football but sometimes I wonder why I do. I think the team will be much improved over last year but that our schedule is so tough it wont matter. LSU and Purdue are probably going to be very tough along with TCU. Then we have to play all the Pac-Ten schools which is not a walk in the park. It will be interesting to see how we do but I believe we will show marked improvement but that Mack will still get fired and we will bring in a young coach to fill in. We need the revenues from Football so badly that just showing improvement will not be enough.

Quencher
02-09-2003, 02:10 PM
He needs to go, sooner, not later. We can start rebuilding the integrety of the program mid season next year if he's dismissed ASAP.

How many more untimely assitant exits? How many players will revolt this year. How many games will we loose by 20+ because no one beleives in their pathetic coach? How many more Hardt issues will makc get away with?

How low can our attendance go?

Wanna support the UofA and the future of Wildcat football - buy no tickets, stop supporting Mackovic.

NewportCat
02-10-2003, 01:22 AM
I do not want the team to lose, your negative attitude needs to be worked on. While I am not the biggest fan of Mack and believe we have a tough schedule I never will root for the Arizona to lose, EVER!!!! You wouldnt either if you cared one bit about Arizona football. This personal thing with Mack is stupid, hell I have more right to hate him for kicking some of my buddies off the team but I dont bad mouth him every chance I get. I will support him next year and see what happens.

BUT I NEVER WANT TO SEE US LOSE. EVER!!!! Do I think we might, YES but I would much rather us win with a coach I didnt like. Period

But thanks for posting because it does make this dead board more interesting

azdoubledown
02-10-2003, 02:47 AM
The integrity of the program will be restored when we get rid of cancers like "Smokey" Levasseur, and its already underway with the signing of two classes that want to play for Mack. So much for that theory WHINEY. (WHINEY, why the different names??)

I'm happy to report to you WHINEY that Mackovic isn't going anywhere until his contract is up. I'll put money on it. Gee, that must really burn your ass since you hate him so much. Did he smudge your Puma or something?

Quencher
02-12-2003, 03:19 AM
TRUE WILDCAT FANS WOULD NEVER SUPPORT ANYONE WHO DOES THIS MUCH DAMAGE TO THE PROGRAM, THE PLAYERS AND THE UNIVERSITY.

IT IS WRONG TO CALL YOURSELF A WILDCAT FAN AND STILL SUPPORT HIM AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF HIM IS TO FIRE HIM - WHICH WILL ONLY HAPPEN IF WE LOOSE.

It's not about the players, it's about saving some semblence of dignity for the program and the University. It's a bout a coach who is so bad that the only way to do so is to loose, early, often and badly!!!

BEARING DOWN ON US COMPLETELY SUCKING THIS YEAR

Josh Gershon
02-12-2003, 10:36 AM
But if Mackovic has a good season this year, it means he is a good coach because it is such a young team. So why not root for Arizona if you are a real fan? I can't imagine a real fan ever actually rooting against the Cats...

azdoubledown
02-12-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Quencher
TRUE WILDCAT FANS WOULD NEVER SUPPORT ANYONE WHO DOES THIS MUCH DAMAGE TO THE PROGRAM, THE PLAYERS AND THE UNIVERSITY.

Hmmmm, who caused the most "DAMAGE"? A coach who yelled at his players and hurt their inner child or a criminal who was arrested traffiking 87 pounds of drugs on a school day approximately 1700 miles from his classroom? And WOW, for all that horrible irreparable damage UofA sure pulled down a mighty impressive recruiting class!!

Originally posted by Quencher
BEARING DOWN ON US COMPLETELY SUCKING THIS YEAR

Right, you must be a "true wildcat fan".:rolleyes: Your opinions on Arizona Football are a little obsessive and largely a joke.