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GlobalCat
11-06-2004, 06:21 AM
I am a huge college basketball fan, but only so-so when it comes to the NBA... mainly because so many of the players' heads are floating waaaaay in the clouds. So I want to see if some of my feelings are shared by others in seeing who they like to cheer against.


My least favorite: Latrell Spreewell. Reason: Every off-seasons' contract dispute, the coach choking, lack of sportsmanship, inability to pass to the open man and shoot instead, and ability the to just plain piss me off.

HiCat
11-06-2004, 11:19 AM
Latrell lucky to be playing. After he put his hands on the coach his career was in serious doubt. NBA should have bounced him for that. Imagine if one of the UA players grabbed Coach O like that?

Most NBA players have Mega egos and are overpaid underachievers. I don't mean that in a bad way...ha.. Stardom creates a weird type of person.

catgrad97
11-06-2004, 12:34 PM
If a player had done that to Coach O, there would have been a posse out for him--I'm talking torches, rope, angry epithets, the works. And I might have led it. Spree's a flat-out idiot who has stolen huge amounts of money from the NBA for this efforts.

HiCat
11-06-2004, 12:46 PM
Cat..
Too funny, I just caught an image of the posse etc., chasing a UA hoops player on horseback..

Latrell Kobe Rodman Jason Williams et al all wonderful role models for college kids to emulate?

Chicat
11-06-2004, 01:54 PM
Ricky ****ing Davis. Wasn't he the assshole who tried to get himself a triple double by shooting on the other team's basket? Stupid ****er. :devil:

GlobalCat
11-06-2004, 03:49 PM
Yup, that's the one!

Staf4Wooden
11-06-2004, 04:12 PM
Karl Malone is a Menace

http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/Malone.danger.html

Embrodak
11-06-2004, 05:15 PM
hell, a good 70% of nba players are deplorable..

JMarkJohns
11-06-2004, 07:40 PM
To answer your question straight up: KOBE BRYANT

There isn't a single thing to this kid that I like. Not the game, not the personality, not the player. He's the living definition of PUNK.

A close second is Ason Kidd (Ason, 'cause that cat has no J...)

Never did a single thing worthy of mention before getting to Jersey, 'cept for the beating of his wife over what to feed the kid. To make matters worse, he then later blamed the Phoenix Organization for the stress which caused his abuse. Get the hell out of here you GODDAMN punk.

Have any of you ever seen his patented pass?

It's the "Beat yo Wife No look".

It's when he beats his wife when noone's looking, then passes all the blame on the organization for which he played.

The bum is completely classless and has never won a single playoff series against a Western Conference team his entire career. In fact, the only Playoff series Phoenix won in his tenure, came with an unretired KJ running the point with Kidd sitting on the sidelines with a broken foot vs. the Spurs in 2000.

Besides being traded to New York and helping a completely healthy, much improved Jersey team to the Finals twice, the cat's never accomplished anything of note in his overly-celebrated career. Besides being traded twice (maybe thrice) and getting every single of his head coaches fired, of course ;)

I did however love watching a Kidd-run fast-break. A thing of beauty to behold.

JMarkJohns
11-06-2004, 07:45 PM
Ricky ****ing Davis. Wasn't he the assshole who tried to get himself a triple double by shooting on the other team's basket? Stupid ****er. :devil:

yep, that's the bum. I recall Jerry Sloan's facial expression after the play. He was completely shocked. If Sloan was playing, Davis would have been taken out like Terrell Owens after his second attempt to stand in glory on the Dallas Star years back.

Sloan would have messed him up BAD.

Chicat
11-06-2004, 09:30 PM
I find that baseball and football players (on average) seem much more humble and in awe of where they have ended up than basketball players. Maybe that has to do with the fact that there are so few players in the NBA in comparison and it is such a select bunch, or maybe it's because they are all a bunch of raging a$$holes. One time, at JFK airport, Patrick Ewing made my 9 year old sister cry by telling her, "I ain't giving out any ****in' autographs." Stupid gorilla-lookin' mother****er. :devil:

HiCat
11-06-2004, 09:53 PM
Heard that about Magic Johnson too. Another guy lost in his own importance..acts like a jerk when you ask him for an autograph. Maybe it's because in BBall the fans are up close and players think that somehow that makes them more important. Not to mention the huge bucks they're paid. Who knows. I bet there are some studies related to this phenomenon. The inability to handle fame and be a humble regular guy.

muffley
11-06-2004, 10:36 PM
Greg Ostertag. Donated a kidney to his sick sister just so he could get his name in the paper. Also runs a charity NAMED AFTER HIMSELF to raise money for the American Lung Association.

Just showing that some NBA'ers are good guys.

For some reason I can't put my finger on, I just can't stand this guy:
<img src="http://www.tvazteca.com/deportes/basquetbol/figuras/images2002/washington/Christian_Laettner.jpg">

budd1e_lee
11-06-2004, 11:31 PM
Ricky ****ing Davis. Wasn't he the assshole who tried to get himself a triple double by shooting on the other team's basket? Stupid ****er. :devil:

bobby sura too, the NBA took sura's away tho

budd1e_lee
11-06-2004, 11:35 PM
I HATE KOBE!!!! and mcdyess, tim thomas, big dog, kobe, troy murphy, kobe, and rip hamilton

JMarkJohns
11-06-2004, 11:40 PM
Sura shot at the right basket though, thus the reason it counted initially.

There as only a few seconds left, they were dribbling out the clock, when Sura realized, shot towards his offensive hoop and gathered the board for the triple-dip.

Them taking it away is a slight joke, since he technically did nothing wrong. Was it bad form? Yes, was it illegal? No.

If Kidd was an assist shy of the dip and in similer situations, throws up a lob and Jefferson dunks it giving Kidd the line...I doubt the League would have done anything, despite there really being no difference between the Sura/board and the hypothetical Kidd/assist.

If Sura was smart, he would have had a teammate miss the shot and then go get the rebound.

Oh well, both players suck anyway.

PointGuardU03
11-07-2004, 02:03 AM
My Short List:
Carlos Boozer - Stabbed a blind man in the back.
Chris Webber - Pathological liar and an idiot whose unaware of how unclutch he is.
Kobe - I could write at least 2000 words on reasons I hate Kobe, and that was before the whole rape incident.
Stephon Marbury - Everything that's wrong with the NBA is personified by Starbury.
I could go on and on, but this is just my short list...

Auercat
11-07-2004, 01:05 PM
Shaquille O'Neal

I'm glad that the lazy, overpiad crybaby was run out of town. :)

Bearing Down on Shaq's Massive Ego Being The Real Problem in LA The Last Couple of Years

Auercat

JMarkJohns
11-07-2004, 02:15 PM
The loud, lazy and overpaid crybaby was certainly a factor in LA failing to win the Title the past two seasons.

But, come on.

Kobe, Kobe, Kobe...all of last season was one giant orgy of Kobe.

If it wasn't his court play, it was his day in court. If it wasn't one of them, it was both of them.

Kobe punkt Shaq by saying to the investigators that Shaq has had similer problems, then after Shaq finds out, has the audacity to tell Shaq to get in shape.

The main, if not only reason why the Lakers didn't win Five titles in a row, is this...

Kobe and his failure to understand coaching greatness and follow suit.

When Kobe listoned to Phil, LA was banner-town, USA.
When Kobe did his own thing at the expense of his team, LA was a joke.

Kobe is a great player. Shaq an all-time great. Phil, maybe greatest ever.

The day Kobe learns he's not God's gift to basketball, is the day the Lakers contend again. He's got all the talent to elevate the Lakers to top-team status, but his ego is his only weakness. It's unbelievable how this kid won't liston, won't realize and won't bother...to anything, but what's best for KOBE.

catgrad97
11-07-2004, 02:18 PM
I find that baseball and football players (on average) seem much more humble and in awe of where they have ended up than basketball players. Maybe that has to do with the fact that there are so few players in the NBA in comparison and it is such a select bunch, or maybe it's because they are all a bunch of raging a$$holes. One time, at JFK airport, Patrick Ewing made my 9 year old sister cry by telling her, "I ain't giving out any ****in' autographs." Stupid gorilla-lookin' mother****er. :devil:

Oh yes....Ewing was lucky to get the one championship he got at Georgetown. The man had no leadership skills, and what's worse every time he opened his mouth, you prayed it was the last time. Remember the 1998 (?) NBA lockout, when he was one of the union reps? Someone asked him why the players were holding out for more money, and he responded, "Professional athletes spend more." One of the all-time zeroheads.

muffley
11-07-2004, 02:34 PM
Shaq is the most dominating player in the NBA. Kobe may be the most talented, but he absolutely the worse team player I have seen. I really enjoy watching Kobe being double teamed and chucking up some awefull shot like he did last year against Detroit.

GlobalCat
11-07-2004, 04:02 PM
I strongly dislike Shaq too. The guy has the charisma of a rock yet is able to get promotional contracts on a variety of products. Listening to him makes me want to buy the competitor's product instead.

Embrodak
11-07-2004, 04:05 PM
I strongly dislike Shaq too. The guy has the charisma of a rock yet is able to get promotional contracts on a variety of products. Listening to him makes me want to buy the competitor's product instead.


you mean listening to a monotone voice coming form a man with a poor grasp of the english language doesn't make you want to go to Radio Shack Shaq?

PointGuardU03
11-07-2004, 05:24 PM
I maybe alone in this, but I love Shaq. He's simply the best interviewer in the NBA, maybe even proffesional sports, around. I think the biggest differeence between Shaq and Kobe, personality wise, was how they delt with their distain for each other. Kobe would go to the press and whine, and pass to Shaq less and less. Shaq when to the media from time to time too, but it never changed the way he played. Kobe shot his team out of the finals last year, making him a more hatable player on the court, as well as off it. I love hearing Laker fans bash Shaq is just way to funny. Soon as he leaves town, they all turn their backs on the main reason their team won three titles in a row. It's a bit sad really.

JMarkJohns
11-07-2004, 05:44 PM
I have nothing against Shaq as a player or person, but he definately contributed to the feud. He liked to use sarcasm and throw little jabs, simply because at the time he could get away with it.

I do not, however, enjoy watching his type of offense. His game is so limited that his dominance was actually boring. His dunks could bring down the house, but they were all the same.

I'd much rather watch a lesser personality, better game like Hakeem (of Old) or Duncan dominate in all-around fashion.

As for wings, I'd much rather watch Ray Allen or Peja or even Rip Hamilton over Kobe.

Allen and Peja because of there shooting, Peja and Hamilton for their movement without the ball. Kobe dribbles and dribbles, moves around, dribbles some more, then with defender at his side and a hand in his face attempts a 18 foot fall-away jumper...

Shaq and Kobe, BOTH BORING....

HiCat
11-11-2004, 11:12 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers11nov11,1,4534634.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Kobe's spin on loosing last night.. sore foot.. It's your team now..

Bison79
11-11-2004, 11:14 AM
Do I have to change one? I dislike 99% of them...end of story. I could go on all day about them..

Zona Dave
11-11-2004, 01:53 PM
My Short List:
Carlos Boozer - Stabbed a blind man in the back.
Chris Webber - Pathological liar and an idiot whose unaware of how unclutch he is.
Kobe - I could write at least 2000 words on reasons I hate Kobe, and that was before the whole rape incident.
Stephon Marbury - Everything that's wrong with the NBA is personified by Starbury.
I could go on and on, but this is just my short list...


Nice list-

I'll give you mine-

Gary Payton-just a hoodlum(always chompin on his gum)
Ron Artest-He's a head case
Chris Webber-I see him finally making the finals (someday) and in game 7, last possesion, and he calls another time-out that they don't have.
Spreewell-With his contract talks not going the wayhe thinks they should, he said "Why shoulda I play hard for this team this year"? Dude, it's your freakin job..What an A-Hole!!
Kobe-Phil Jackson described him perfect in his book excerpt on ESPN page 2. Arrogance at it's finest :angry:

84Cat
11-11-2004, 02:42 PM
I think The Lake Show messed up big time letting Shaq go but they really had no choice. I didn't like Shaq's game but he is still the most dominant player in the NBA. Kobe will see how tough it is to win without another great player on the team. Kobe is not MJ no matter what he thinks and although I like Odom & Butler, they are going to have a tough year. Kobe needs to learn how to be a team player if he ever wants to win another championship. When Kobe goes 4-19 like in the Memphis game, there is no chance his team can win. Until he knows that, any team Kobe is on will struggle. I think the Heat will be very good this year, Wade is damn good and possibly as good or better than Kobe.

As for players I hate in the NBA:
1. Kenyon Martin - just can't stand even looking at the guy
2. Karl Malone - even though he is a Laker, I think he plays dirty and he gets to the line way too much
3. Ricky Davis - I used to feel sorry for the guy until the triple double thing happened. No mas.

AzDave
11-11-2004, 09:15 PM
Anyone else find it fitting (though sad at the same time) that Artest has no clue what the word 'integrity' means?

I echo the sentiment that there aren't many NBA players who AREN'T my least favorite. As contracts and ticket prices keep rising, that league will steadily decline as long as the quality of the product on the floor remains as poor as it is today.

azhoops
11-20-2004, 04:46 AM
Kenyon Martin
Shaq
Kobe
Payton
Artest
Ricky Davis
Spreewell
boozer
danny fortson
iverson
robert horry
mark madsen (not a bad guy, just really annoying)

at least, for now, I can think of more players that I actually like- the nba is going downhill fast.

How many of you knew former ASU thug Awvee Storey was in the NBA?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3903

Jason Scheer
11-20-2004, 05:13 AM
Melo-just don't like what he has become in the NBA
Kenyon-never really liked him at all
Kobe
Reggie Miller
Reggie Miller
Reggie Miller
Karl Malone

ZONACAT
11-20-2004, 01:35 PM
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