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SnowCat
11-22-2004, 12:21 AM
All in all, a good piece. My only real comment is that the season long suspension of Artest isn't fair to the Pacers. I say, suspend him 62 games, giving him and the Pacers 10 games to prepare for a fighting chance in the playoffs. Give him a much large fine if you must, but telling the team "no title this year" is a bit tough on the entire Pacer organization.

Crossing the line
by Steve Kerr, Yahoo! Sports
November 20, 2004

Until the cup was thrown, it was business as usual in Auburn Hills.

An intense, physical basketball game; a hard foul by Ron Artest – in retaliation for a hard Ben Wallace foul a minute earlier; an angry response from Wallace; a pushing match, followed by the usual grabbing, holding and yelling as coaches and officials attempted to gain control of the situation. NBA fans have witnessed scenes like this a thousand times before.

It should have stopped there, and it would have – if a stupid fan hadn't thrown a cup at Artest, hitting him in the face.

Players are forced to endure verbal taunting all the time in sports. I once warmed up for a game at Arizona State University while two inebriated fans taunted me about the death of my father. I've had teammates endure all kinds of ugly insults, threats and barbs.

But there always has been an uneasy understanding between these idiotic fans and players that a so-called line wouldn't be crossed. Verbal assaults, ugly as they may be, were to be tolerated.Any physical acts, however, were off limits.

So when Artest was hit in the face by the cup, all bets were off. The line had been crossed, and Artest's response was understandable, if regrettable.

Imagine what any of us would do if a person showed up to our workplace, taunted us and then threw a beer in our face? How many of us would show any restraint at all?

Yes, Artest snapped, and he faces a major suspension from the NBA. So do Stephen Jackson and Jermaine O'Neal, who threw multiple punches at fans. Ben Wallace will be penalized for initiating the altercation. David Stern has to send a message to NBA players that under no circumstances will they be allowed to enter the stands to confront taunting fans, even in ugly environments like the one in Detroit on Friday night. I expect suspensions of up to 15 games for each of the three Pacers involved.

That said, I hope that each and every fan involved with the fight will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The fans provoked the fight, not the players. They deserve major punishment. Law enforcement officials have plenty of footage that will implicate dozens of fans guilty of instigating the brawl.

Perhaps the most disturbing shot was seeing dozens of fans showering Pacer players and coaches with popcorn, beer, cups – anything they could get their hands on as the team exited the floor. The mob mentality at that point was incredibly ugly.

Alcohol almost certainly played a role in this brawl, so I expect the league to enact rules that prohibit its sale, perhaps in the second half of games. But the bottom line is that civil behavior must prevail the next time this sort of thing becomes a possibility. Fans and players alike must show restraint, even as emotions run high and the intensity of a big game boils over.

Fans cannot under any circumstances throw anything on the floor. And players, in turn, can't respond. I expect that both the NBA and Auburn Hills police will come down hard on the participants to make sure an ugly incident like this doesn't happen again.

muffley
11-22-2004, 12:33 AM
A nice level headed piece, and I'm sorry to say Steve has not forgotten the ASU incident, it must have been extremely painful. Steve however showed restraint and gave one of the best games of his career, responding back to ASU with extreme coolness, and having a great game. If he had let them get into his head, I really doubt that Steve would be wearing those 5 rings.

JMarkJohns
11-22-2004, 12:57 AM
Good piece and I love readin what Kerr has to say about anything related to the League...

I hated to read that about the ASU fans...it's just sickening.

I remember watching the Monday Night r Sunday night football game between the Buccaneers and the Eagles in Philly just this past year. I twas the game when Joe Jeruvicius made that unbelievable tip-leap-catch for a touchdown...anyways, since the Eagles were getting killed and the fans couldn't think of anything better to do, they started chanting the name Joe's recently deceased infant...I was stunned. I think that is without a doubt something that needs to be stopped. That's so F'ed up.

I don't even like Joe J or the Bucs, but after that game I hated Philly...just unbelievably horrible.

Back to the article...I think it will be interesting to hear/read his thoughts on the suspensions, as he, like myself, had 15-games across the board.

SnowCat
11-22-2004, 03:56 AM
I hated to read that about the ASU fans...it's just sickening.

I remember watching the Monday Night r Sunday night football game between the Buccaneers and the Eagles in Philly just this past year. I twas the game when Joe Jeruvicius made that unbelievable tip-leap-catch for a touchdown...anyways, since the Eagles were getting killed and the fans couldn't think of anything better to do, they started chanting the name Joe's recently deceased infant...I was stunned.

While I don't condone players charging the stands, I still say that fan abuse getting out of control. I have always hated Detroit FANS, Philly FANS, and Washington FANS. New york Met fans just plain suck.

Some measures will have to be taken at some time in the near future. Watching the Pacers being taken off court while 40, 50, 60, and more fans continued to dump beer, popcorn, pop, spitoon cups, etc. on there faces was a degrading display of mob mentality. Just plain sick.

Daryl Zero
11-24-2004, 07:17 AM
I am a bit dissappointed in Steve's opinion. I agree more with Michael Irvin who said that nothing good could come of going into the stands. The problem with blaming the "fans" is that it only takes one out of thousands to do something stupid. The "fans" cannot control one idiot. The video has already shown that Artest went up and clocked the wrong person.

auti
11-24-2004, 09:32 AM
The "fans" cannot control one idiot. The video has already shown that Artest went up and clocked the wrong person.

Actually I disagree and believe if it were only one idiot then the fans could control him and probably should until security was brought in to handle the situation. Problem wasn't one idiot fan, problem was many idiot fans the tapes show that much.