View Full Version : Moss is a punk
Chicat
01-03-2005, 12:07 PM
I would hate to have Randy Moss as a teammate. Did anyone see what he did yesterday?
After a season of ups and downs, blood, sweat and tears, and the heart and soul of everyone on that team, with two seconds left in the game that decided the Vikings playoff fate, Randy Moss walked off the field alone. He couldn't even be bothered to watch the outcome of the game with his teammates, instead choosing to wander back to the lockerroom by himself. What would have happened if by some miracle the Vikes had recovered the onside kick and ran it back, or called timeout with one second left on the clock?
And why do I think that when the Vikings found out that they had backed into the playoffs through the misfortune of others, that Randy Moss was the only person on that team who felt like he deserved a spot in the postseason? If anyone deserves a royal ass kicking, it's that idiot. All the talent in the world and not one iota of class . . . :angry:
JMarkJohns
01-03-2005, 05:26 PM
When nature calls, what are ya gonna do. Some say it he had a swagger is he sauntered off the field...I think he was just trying to look non-chalant (sp?)...
Wolfman Duke
01-03-2005, 07:41 PM
I can't stand Moss either. But you can bet I'll be a big Vikings fan this weekend when they play Green Bay. Screw the Pack, shut those damn fans up and knock that bum Favre outta the game!!
Chicat
01-04-2005, 04:07 PM
Birk confronted Moss after loss to 'Skins
Associated Press
While the rest of the Minnesota Vikings were fighting to the last, Randy Moss was skulking away.
With his helmet in hand and head down, Moss slowly walked off the field Sunday while his teammates were lining up to try an onside kick with 2 seconds left. The Redskins recovered, handing the rattled Vikings a 21-18 season finale loss.
Although the play mattered little in the end, center Matt Birk took issue with Moss's quitting attitude, and confronted the receiver immediately after the game.
"It shouldn't happen, and if it happens again there might be some problems," Birk said Monday, choosing his words carefully.
Had Minnesota recovered, the Vikings might have been able to try a Hail Mary pass — a play that Moss certainly would've been handy for — to seal a playoff spot. It was a moot point when Carolina lost minutes later, allowing the Vikings to back into the postseason. They travel to Green Bay on Sunday.
But Moss's move spoke volumes about the shattered mental state of the Vikings, who lost seven of their last 10 to finish 8-8.
Few of his teammates and coaches noticed at the time, but television cameras caught the three-time All-Pro — who has an infamous history of attitude problems — walking into the tunnel toward the locker room.
Moss, who caught five passes for 66 yards and a touchdown in the game, had an hour-long phone conversation with Tice afterward. They talked again Monday morning in the coach's office for the same amount of time. Tice declined to comment about a possible disciplinary measure, but he indicated Moss knows he messed up.
"I understand his frustration," Tice said, "but we can't let our frustrations make us make poor decisions of poor judgment."
Moss was unavailable for comment, as he has been most of the season.
"I wasn't too much worried about it," wide receiver Marcus Robinson said. "He's going to do what he's going to do, and it's not a reflection on me or anybody else.
"That's Randy Moss. He can do basically what he wants to do. Definitely, he did what he did."
JMarkJohns
01-04-2005, 04:39 PM
"It shouldn't happen, and if it happens again there might be some problems," Birk said Monday, choosing his words carefully.
This is a guy I'd want on my team.
This, is not...
"I wasn't too much worried about it," wide receiver Marcus Robinson said. "He's going to do what he's going to do, and it's not a reflection on me or anybody else. That's Randy Moss. He can do basically what he wants to do..."
Chicat
01-04-2005, 04:42 PM
I think Robinson's remark was pointed more at the coaching staff having different rules for their star player. At least that's how I interpreted it when I heard him say that on Sportscenter.
JMarkJohns
01-04-2005, 04:54 PM
Yeah, the prollem with print is, unless it's stated, you have no idea of the context or tone of the speak. If he was saying sarcastically, then wonderful.
Wish I could have heard it...
catgrad97
01-04-2005, 04:58 PM
That's a team that has no leader. Saying that a wide receiver "can do basically what he wants to do" is a bad, bad sign of disunity on a football team.
Randy Moss is the most talented cancer to the team concept active in pro football.
Class of 1990
01-04-2005, 05:27 PM
Randy Moss is the most talented cancer to the team concept active in pro football.
I agree.
Signed,
Shawn Alexander
Chicat
01-04-2005, 05:30 PM
At least Alexander made a public apology. All I've heard from Randy are his plans to run over at least three more traffic control officers in the offseason. :rolleyes:
Class of 1990
01-04-2005, 06:31 PM
At least Alexander made a public apology. All I've heard from Randy are his plans to run over at least three more traffic control officers in the offseason. :rolleyes:
Did you listen to Alexanders apology ? JT the Brick played almost the whole thing last night. It was forced and fake. These guys just don't get it. They should enjoy the game, fame, money and being able to walk away with the last two for the rest of their lives. (That was a horrible run on sentence but I'm too tired)
Chicat
01-05-2005, 09:53 AM
I saw the highlights of the apology on Sportscenter. True, I've seen some that were more heartfelt, but it beats the silence coming from the Randy Moss camp any day of the week.
killervibe
01-05-2005, 01:50 PM
Im a big Seahawk fan and visit their forums regularly.. we have been bashing Shaun relentlessly since his tantrum.
Class of 1990
01-08-2005, 01:50 AM
I would hate to have Randy Moss as a teammate. Did anyone see what he did yesterday?
From Jim Rome:
Hey Jim,
Lay off Randy, I left the field because I didn't want to do anything stupid either.
Signed,
Ashlee Simpson's singing career
Merkin
01-10-2005, 11:41 AM
Word.
<img src="http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050110/capt.wimg10601100122.vikings_packers_wimg106.jpg">
Bison79
01-10-2005, 11:48 AM
What did he do recently last weekend, pointing to the moon? whatever the announcers said? I missed it and am curious...was it Moss that did it first of all?
Or is what Merk just showed me what he actually did?
Merkin
01-10-2005, 11:51 AM
He pretended to take down his pants and "moon" the fans.
Bison79
01-10-2005, 11:55 AM
I guess the commenters were good at covering up what the meant, cuz I swear they said "he was pointing to the moon..." :roll:
Chicat
01-10-2005, 12:58 PM
That's Randy! Class act all the way . . . :rolleyes:
sure he's immature, but how many guys can catch 2TDs on a bum ankle?
Randy Moss is a great player, but i sure wouldn't want him as a friend.
The mooning ordeal was blown out of proportion. I thought it was funny, who likes the fudge packers anyway?
SnowCat
01-10-2005, 03:27 PM
It's a Lambeau field tradition to MOON the opponents bus as they leave the stadium. For this instance, good for Moss. The whole team should have joined in.
Officer Craig
01-10-2005, 03:49 PM
WOW!!! The earth must be caving in, i actually agree with Mtzwami.
C'mon you pussies, oooooooh, he "pretended" to moon the end zone fans. THe horror! Oh my god. They HAVE to fine him. He can't celebrate in a funny and different way! No!!! I am SO glad i didn't see that live.
Can't stand people crying about this sh1t.
catgrad97
01-10-2005, 04:21 PM
OC, Joe Buck started it on Fox. He called the move "totally classless" and said "I'm sorry that our cameras had to pick it up."
Of course, I laugh whenever someone from Fox happens to criticize someone else for being "classless." Rob Evans has more credibility saying that.
Chicat
01-10-2005, 04:22 PM
His interactions with the fans after a touchdown, I have very little problem with. His walking out on his team is another story entirely.
Chicat
01-10-2005, 04:34 PM
Apparently the NFL didn't like the mooning thing much. But if anything was an obscene gesture, it was Randy's hair. Did anyone else see that?
Moss likely to be fined for playoff 'mooning'
Dave Goldberg / Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) - Randy Moss is almost sure to be fined for pretending to moon fans in Green Bay during a playoff win, according to NFL rules.
The league is looking into the star receiver's antics in Minnesota's 31-17 win over the Packers on Sunday and will announce its ruling later this week.
When asked whether the oft-fined Moss would be penalized again, a league spokesman recited NFL rules mandating discipline for "obscene gestures or other actions construed as being in poor taste."
A fine for the first offense under those guidelines is $5,000. Moss has not previously been fined for such action, but paid a $25,000 penalty in 1999 for squirting an official with a water bottle.
In the last year, the NFL has dealt with a couple of highly publicized situations that many fans found objectionable. There was the Janet Jackson breast-baring episode during the halftime show of the Super Bowl in February and the steamy "Monday Night Football" introduction this season featuring Philadelphia receiver Terrell Owens and "Desperate Housewives" star Nicollette Sheridan.
On Sunday, Moss caught a touchdown pass in the fourth quarter and headed toward the goalpost. He then turned his back to the Lambeau Field crowd, bent over and pantomimed pulling down his pants.
"Just having a little fun with the boys," Moss told a Fox reporter as he left the field. "I hope I don't get in trouble by it, but if I do I'll take the heat."
Moss, making $5 million this season, declined comment Monday.
Vikings coach Mike Tice said he spoke Monday with Art Shell, executive director of the players' association.
"The league has called me," Tice said. "I didn't see it until last night."
Tice added he always thought of Green Bay fans as having "a tremendous amount of class" but that he didn't think they acted that way Sunday.
Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy said he saw Moss' action and, "I thought it was kind of humorous."
"It's not the kind of thing you want to see on national TV, but I understand what it was all about," he said.
"Anyone who has played in the NFC Central knows what that's about. The fans in Green Bay have a tradition in the parking lot after the game where they moon the visiting team's bus," he said. "It's kind of a unique send-off."
"I had seen it seven times because when I was with the Vikings, we lost to them seven times up there," he said.
Fox did not show a replay of Moss' display during the game.
"It was inappropriate to replay it in the context of the game," Fox spokesman Lou D'Ermilio said.
ESPN declined to show the replay Sunday because, "in the end, we decided a conservative approach, taking a breath rather than rushing to air, would be prudent," spokesman Josh Krulewitz said.
Krulewitz said replays were to be shown Monday "conservatively, based on the NFL's and the Vikings' reaction to it."
Last month, Denver quarterback Jake Plummer was fined $5,000 for an obscene gesture.
Moss was originally fined $40,000 in 1999 for squirting an official, but it was reduced to $25,000 on appeal.
Moss verbally abused corporate sponsors on the team bus in 2001. That resulted in the team fining him $15,000 and forcing him to attend anger management classes.
In December of 2002, he was fined $1,200 by a judge after being charged with bumping a traffic officer with his car in downtown Minneapolis.
And last week, he was chewed out by teammates for leaving the field before the end of a loss in Washington. Center Matt Birk, one of the Vikings' leaders, confronted him and quarterback Daunte Culpepper also was upset.
Moss, his hair poofed out in a giant Afro, had four receptions for 70 yards and two touchdowns in Sunday's game.
After Moss' second score and resulting show, Birk just shook his head and smiled.
"That's Randy," he said. "You take the good with the bad."
WallyNoche
01-10-2005, 04:57 PM
Moss is a great talent...but it sure makes you appreciate the Marvin Harrisons even more...lets see...(catch the ball for a TD and hand it to the ref over and over and over again).
I am not saying play with no emotion or have fun on the field...but Moss seems to be more of a distraction than anything...
SnowCat
01-10-2005, 05:40 PM
A just for you Packer fans, from Moonesota reciever Randy Moss;
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050110/capt.wimg10601100122.vikings_packers_wimg106.jpg
JMarkJohns
01-10-2005, 05:51 PM
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I missed the play and only saw still pics over the AP Photo wire...I was really ticked at ESPN for not showing on Sportscenter...
When I finally saw it, I didn't think much of it. It was dumb, but not "classless"...Now that Tony Dungy has supported it as a reaction to the Green Bay fans tradition, I applaud him. I have no prollem with things like this...
If he'd have actually moon him, then not so much...but he didn't, so :roll:
SCCat
01-10-2005, 05:58 PM
A $5000 dollar fine is tatamount to the league saying the action is fine.
Everyone wrings their hands about stuff like this and is it classless? Might be, although it is associated with something the fans there do to the players. But all the while the owners and the league will say it is bad and hand out $5000 dollar fines to people making $10M a year while patting their own bulging wallets and secretly laughing about all the free press they will get Nicolette Sheridan style for their product.
Class of 1990
01-10-2005, 09:53 PM
OC, Joe Buck started it on Fox. He called the move "totally classless" and said "I'm sorry that our cameras had to pick it up."
Of course, I laugh whenever someone from Fox happens to criticize someone else for being "classless." Rob Evans has more credibility saying that.
From Jim Rome today:
Dear Jim,
Mr. Buck is right. Our station has no place for that kind of programming.
Sincerely,
Fox, home of My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiancé, My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss, The Simple Life, and American Karaoke.
Dale in Denver
War Buckeyes
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Joe Buck is completely right. Randy Moss is a disgrace and his behavior in the Vikings-Packers game was disgusting and has absolutely no place to be shown on Fox.
Signed,
"Who's Your Daddy", "Temptation Island", "My Big, Fat Obnoxious
Fiancee", and any Paris Hilton show
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Dear Jim,
That was a embarrassing display of taking attention away from the team and making it about Randy Moss, when is this guy going to learn that football is a team sport not about individual displays of selfishness. That was embarrassing and disgusting.
T.O.
TJ, Nashville
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Actually I like the TD celebrations. It's fun. Even when it goes against my team. N.F.L. the no fun league. Of course buy a video game and they all dance like fools. :rolleyes: FOX calling anything unclassy LOL.
We have already discussed the silly dancing "b/c I stopped him for a 2 yard gain". That should get a 15 unsportsmanlike penalty.
2002Alum
01-11-2005, 07:19 AM
I hate Randy Moss but I thought it was kind of funny. :) I like the ending part when he hit his butt against the goal post a couple times.
Chicat
01-13-2005, 01:01 PM
Moss got fined $10,000 for the mooning incident. That seems excessive. I don't think he should have been fined at all. The hit to his reputation that all these incidents cause is good enough for me.
JMarkJohns
01-13-2005, 01:47 PM
Joe Buck should be fined for indecency he inflicts on all those listoning whenever he calls a game...not because he's bad, but because no-it-all, no brain Tim McCarver is right there next to him(during baseball season, anyways)...the bastard is so ingrained in my psyche, that I can't even hear Joe Buck without fear McCarver is going to follow with something like, "And that boys and girls is the pitch a pitcher pitches when he's pitching to get an out!"
"And that boys and girls is the pitch a pitcher pitches when he's pitching to get an out!"
??? What the hell does that mean???
And McCarver really did say that...
Merkin
01-13-2005, 01:50 PM
I think the NFL was just drawing a line in the sand. $10K was certainly excessive, and probably uncalled for, but the NFL just wants to keep the game serious. If they allowed the "mooning", then Moss would have to come up with something else just to push the envelope out a little further out.
Chicat
01-13-2005, 01:55 PM
And McCarver really did say that...
A topic for a different thread (in a different forum) but McCarver is a ****ing idiot. My greatest joy was watching Deon Sanders (another idiot) soak him after the Braves clinched.
Merkin
01-13-2005, 02:00 PM
A topic for a different thread (in a different forum) but McCarver is a ****ing idiot. My greatest joy was watching Deon Sanders (another idiot) soak him after the Braves clinched.
Speaking of getting soaked, check out: http://www.ttr2.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album85&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
Very nice, but NSFW.
JMarkJohns
01-13-2005, 02:02 PM
Like I said, my psyche is so screwed up by this guy, that I can't hear Bucks say something without the fear of McIdiot following suit.
I think Buck is good, not great, but good at both sports he covers.
Merkin
01-14-2005, 01:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1966180
Reporter: "Write the check yet, Randy?"
Moss: "When you're rich you don't write checks."
Reporter: "If you don't write checks, how do you pay these guys?"
Moss: "Straight cash, homey."
Reporter: "Randy, are you upset about the fine?"
Moss: "No, cause it ain't [expletive]. Ain't nothing but 10 grand. What's 10 grand to me? Ain't [expletive] … Next time I might shake my [expletive]."
JMarkJohns
01-14-2005, 02:58 PM
"Next time I might shake my [expletive]."
What the hell did he say? Ass? Wank? What?
Either way, it's not looking good for Moss. I wonder if McCombs feels betrayed for his defending of the fool. He certainly looked dumb, but McCombs looks like a schmuck...
Chicat
01-14-2005, 04:46 PM
I'm gonna say "dick".
"Next time I might shake my dick." How does that sound? Like it came out of Randy's mouth? Yeah, I figured as much. :rolleyes:
muffley
01-17-2005, 03:23 PM
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JMarkJohns
01-17-2005, 04:14 PM
Muff, I'd give ya some love, but I haven't slutted it around enough :rolleyes:
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