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01-05-2005, 01:41 PM

Baller of the Day for Tuesday's games is Jermaine O'Neal. In a Pacers win over the Bucks, J.O. had 55 points, 11 rebounds, three assists and two blocks. Runner-up for Baller of the Day goes to Kevin Garnett, who in a Timberwolves loss to the Suns had 47 points, 17 rebounds, four assists and two steals.

In the Suns win over the Timberwolves, Steve Nash shot 6-of-11 for 20 points and 16 assists. He only committed three turnovers. In that win, Amare Stoudemire had 34 points with eight boards. Shawn Marion had 28 with eight boards. The Suns are ridiculous. TNT and ESPN should put every Suns game on national television for the rest of the season.

The AP reports: Businessman Dan Gilbert is no stranger to scrutiny as founder of the nation's largest online mortgage company. He also said he has nothing to hide -- including a 1981 gambling-related arrest -- in his bid to buy the Cleveland Cavaliers. Gilbert, now 42, was arrested while he was a student at Michigan State University. He was fined, given probation and ordered to do 100 hours of community service. But he has no permanent criminal record; he qualified for a program that allows certain youthful offenders to have their records cleared if they successfully complete their sentences. Gilbert said he has told the NBA about his arrest. He also said he has been personally investigated by nearly all 50 states as an officer of a mortgage lending institution.

Fanball reports: Vince Carter had his best scoring night as a Net on Tuesday. He put in a team-high 31 points on 15-of-23 shooting from the field. Carter also added seven rebounds and three assists. Carter is averaging almost nine more points a game as a Net than he did in Toronto. He and Jason Kidd are developing chemistry and, assuming Kidd stays in New Jersey, should continue to benefit from each other's presence.

Fanball reports: Amare Stoudemire scored a team-high 34 points in the Suns' 122-115 victory over the Timberwolves on Tuesday. He went 15-19 from the field and four-for-five from the free-throw line. The forward also chipped in eight rebounds, two assists, two blocks, and a steal.

Fanball reports: The Jazz cut center Alek Radojevic on Tuesday. He had missed the first 18 games of the season with tendinitis in his left knee but started six games for Utah in December. The transaction leaves the team will only 11 players on their active roster.

Ticker reports: Los Angeles Clippers forward Chris Wilcox, in the midst of the best season of his brief career, was diagnosed with a lower right leg stress reaction Tuesday and is sidelined indefinitely. Wilcox informed the medical staff of discomfort in his right leg 10 days ago. After a treatment program proved ineffective, Wilcox underwent an MRI on Tuesday and was diagnosed with the condition - which is caused by repetitive pounding and overuse - by team physician Dr. Tony Daly. The condition will be monitored and Wilcox will be re-evaluated on a weekly basis.

Ticker reports: Golden State Warriors forward Dale Davis was put on the injured list Tuesday with back soreness, prompting the club to activate rookies Andris Biedrins and Luis Flores. A 14-year veteran, Davis had not played in the team's last six games and had appeared in just 20 of the Warriors' 31 contests this season. In his first season with Golden State, Davis is averaging a career-low 2.0 points and 4.4 rebounds. An All-Star in 2000 with the Indiana Pacers, Davis owns a career average of 8.3 rebounds.

The AP reports: Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant, Jermaine O'Neal and four other NBA players have promised to donate $1,000 for every point they score in a game later this week to help victims of the Indian Ocean tsunami. Bob Sura of the Houston Rockets, Jalen Rose of the Toronto Raptors, and Pau Gasol and Mike Miller of the Memphis Grizzlies also are taking part in the $1,000-per-point donations, which will be made to UNICEF. ``I first talked about it with Jermaine and Tracy right before New Year's. We talked about different ideas, and that's how it started,'' said agent Arn Tellem, who said he will match the highest donation made by any of the players.

Transactions: The Detroit Pistons released Smush Parker.

The home team is in caps:

Phoenix 122, MINNESOTA 115 - Ticker reports: The Phoenix Suns' remarkable start to the season now includes overcoming the most dominant night of Kevin Garnett's career. Amare Stoudemire scored 34 points and Steve Nash had 20 and 16 assists as the Suns continued their roll with a 122-115 triumph over the Minnesota Timberwolves. Minnesota's third straight loss offset a record-setting performance by Garnett, who scored a team-record 47 points and had 17 rebounds in the loss. Garnett's previous career high was 40 and the Timberwolves' record was 44, set by Tony Campbell and matched by Wally Szczerbiak. Even with Garnett's huge effort, Minnesota (16-13) was out of the game most of the night. Phoenix led by 21 points in the third quarter and only a late run by the Timberwolves made the score respectable. The win was the third straight for the Suns (27-4), who own the best record in the sport. Stoudemire, who has a 50-point game this season, was ejected following a skirmish with Latrell Sprewell with 5:09 left in the contest. Phoenix is 11-1 this season when its young star scores 30 in a game.

INDIANA 116, Milwaukee 99 - Ticker reports: Hours after putting his money where his mouth was, Jermaine O'Neal put the ball where the basket was. O'Neal scored a career-high 55 points as the Indiana Pacers posted a 116-99 triumph over the Milwaukee Bucks. Prior to the game, O'Neal was one of seven of agent Arn Tellem's clients to pledge a charitable contribution to victims of the Indian Ocean tsunami. As part of the donation, O'Neal will give $1,000 for every point he scores Thursday against San Antonio. His contribution total Tuesday would have been rather significant as he set an NBA season high and came within two points of the team record. Reggie Miller, who was one of the players trying to get O'Neal the ball late in the game, holds the record with 57 points against Charlotte on November 28, 1992. O'Neal scored 19 points through one quarter and had 29 at the half. With 47 through three quarters, he had the record in his sights but pulled himself from the game with 1:43 to go and the Pacers comfortably ahead. O'Neal did take one shot at tying the record - a 20-footer that clanged off the rim. Philadelphia's Allen Iverson had 54 points against the Bucks on December 18. O'Neal, who was 18-of-28 from the field and 19-of-25 from the line, missed the Pacers two previous meetings with Milwaukee this season - both Pacers' losses. Behind O'Neal's dominance, Indiana ran its winning streak to a season-high four games. The Pacers' point total also was a season high and they are 11-1 when scoring at least 100 points this season. Desmond Mason scored 21 points and Michael Redd added 19 for the Bucks, who lost for just the second time in seven games against Central Division opponents.

WASHINGTON 112, New Jersey 88 - Ticker reports: Larry Hughes and the Washington Wizards continue to turn the tables on the New Jersey Nets. Hughes matched a season high with 33 points and the Wizards set a franchise mark for 3-pointers in a game as they rolled to a 112-88 victory over the Nets. Washington had lost 13 of its last 16 meetings with New Jersey entering the season, but has won all three matchups since. In this one, the Wizards closed with a 26-6 run and scored the final 18 points to turn the game into a rout. Washington's bench outscored New Jersey's 31-12. The Wizards' 14 3-pointers broke the previous mark of 12 set last season against Dallas. After Vince Carter's layup cut Washington's lead to 86-82, Hughes kicked off the closing surge with a pair of 3-pointers, part of the Wizards' 14-of-27 effort from the arc. Hughes ended up with 11 straight points in the fourth, including the first three of the 18-0 burst. Jarvis Hayes sank Washington's last 3-pointer to make it 106-88 with just over two minutes left. Carter had his finest game since joining the Nets last month, scoring a season-high 31 on 15-of-23 shooting. He look like his former high-flying self on a couple of alley-oop dunks in the third quarter. Carter attributed his dunks to Kidd's alley-oop feeds. The Nets, however, missed their last seven shots and failed to score over the final 5:37.

Sacramento 105, NEW YORK 98 - Ticker reports: Chris Webber hit big shots down the stretch to lead the Sacramento Kings to a rare victory in New York. Webber scored 22 points and knocked down a pair of jumpers in the closing minutes as the Kings defeated the New York Knicks, 105-98. It was Sacramento's first win in New York since January 13, 1996. The Kings led 56-43 at the half but the Knicks got back in the game with a 36-point third quarter and trailed only 81-79 heading into the fourth. The Knicks seemed to run out of gas in the final quarter as they managed only 19 points and missed their chances to overtake the Kings. Tim Thomas missed a finger roll that would have cut the lead to one with just under two minutes left and Sacramento turned the miss into a dunk by Maurice Evans to extend its lead to 98-93. Webber then iced the game with a 20-footer with 1:18 to go to push the Kings' lead back to five and hit another long jumper with 20 seconds left to make it 104-96. Evans provided Sacramento with a lift off the bench, scoring 16 points in 15 minutes, while Peja Stojakovic added 21. Stephon Marbury scored 26 points for New York but had only one point in the fourth quarter. Nazr Mohammed had 22 points and Allan Houston added 21 for the Knicks.

SAN ANTONIO 100, LA Lakers 83 - Ticker reports: The San Antonio Spurs got by their one-time rivals despite a rare sub-par performance by Tim Duncan. Bruce Bowen scored 13 of his season-high 24 points in the first half and Brent Barry added 14 as the Spurs coasted to a 100-83 victory over the Los Angeles Lakers. Duncan managed just 12 points on 5-of-9 shooting in 28 minutes, but his teammates picked up the slack as San Antonio shot 58% (23-of-40) through two quarters en route to its sixth win in seven games. The Spurs led for most of the game and pulled away at the end of the first quarter. After Kobe Bryant's jumper cut the Lakers' deficit to 19-13 with 3 1/2 minutes left, Barry found rookie Beno Udrih for an easy layup on the other end to ignite a 10-2 run. Barry added a basket before hitting a pair of 3-pointers around a layup by Bryant, making it 29-15 with 56 seconds left. Bowen tacked on a shot from the arc at the buzzer to give the Spurs a 32-18 advantage after 12 minutes. The duo combined to hit nine of the Spurs' season-high 15 3-pointers. Bowen and Barry scored the first five points of the second period and Manu Ginobili scored seven of his 13 in the quarter as San Antonio pushed its lead to 29 and took a 56-32 edge into the break. In addition to his offensive outburst, Bowen held Bryant to 17 points. Seeking his fourth consecutive 40-point performance, Bryant made just 5-of-16 shots for Los Angeles, which shot 40% (31-of-76). The teams have posted the two best records in the NBA over the last eight seasons and have combined to win the last six Western Conference championships. They have met in the postseason five times during that stretch.


All times Eastern. Local and national television info to right of each game:

Golden State @ Boston 7:00pm FSNE / FSBay
Sacramento @ Toronto 7:00pm CSN-SAC , SCORE
Minnesota @ Charlotte 7:00pm C-SET / FSNN
Seattle @ Orlando 7:00pm Sunshine / FSN-SEA
Atlanta @ Cleveland 7:00pm FSOhio / WPXA
New York @ Miami 7:30pm Sunshine / MSG
New Jersey @ Milwaukee 8:00pm FSNN / YES
Chicago @ New Orleans 8:00pm CST / CSN-CHI
L.A. Lakers @ Dallas 8:30pm CBS11 / KCAL
Phoenix @ Houston 9:00pm FSNSW / UPN 45 ESPN
Philadelphia @ Utah 9:00pm KJZZ / CSN
Portland @ L.A. Clippers 10:30pm FSN2 / KGW


January 5, 1962: Wilt Chamberlain of Philadelphia began a streak of 47 consecutive complete games, an NBA record.

January 5, 1988: Hall of Famer Pete Maravich died at the age of 40 after suffering a heart attack while playing in a pick-up game in California.

January 5, 1995: Bill Fitch became the fifth coach in NBA history to register 850 career victories with the Clippers’ 95-93 home win over Philadelphia.

January 5, 2001: Tim Thomas of the Milwaukee Bucks connected on eight three-point field goals in the second half of Milwaukee’s 119-115 victory over Portland, breaking the record of seven three-pointers made in one half shared by 10 players.

01-05-2005, 06:14 PM

Did you see how Stoudemire got ejected last night? Maybe the cameras picked up something I didn't, but from what I saw, Amare got fouled on a wicked dunk and bounced the ball at Sprewell. Latrell, like the immature baby he is and always will be, whipped the ball back off him hard.

That was it, as far as I saw. But kudos to Steve Nash for holding the team together for the victory...the Suns don't win that kind of game any other year without Nash.

It sure looked doubtful at the end last night, even so. Teams that hope to beat the Suns are going to have to take Amare out in some way. Phoenix just isn't the same team with Stoudemire out of the game.

01-05-2005, 06:20 PM
I joked that Stoudemire, because of the way the officials allowed the physical play, maybe didn't think a foul was called and tossed the ball towards Sprewell...

I doubt that, but Amare certainly did only toss the ball towards Spree, who, as you stated, chucked it back at him.

Javy, a veteran official, should have known the circumstances.

Amare got his first tech sticking up for Hunter who was being berated by Garnett all game long and was visably bothered. Hunter was walking away, yet Garnett kept following, so Amare got involved...

Both his tech's were dumb and unnecessary. Garnett was allowed to blab and throw 'bows anytime he wanted without repercussions...

01-05-2005, 06:23 PM
Steve Javie was officiating the game last night? Dear God. ONE team is lucky if he knows their circumstances. To be fair to both teams consistently is asking too much of Javie.

He was known as "Quick-T Steve" his first couple years in the league, with good reason...I think that guy tossed John MacLeod once.

01-05-2005, 06:46 PM
Sportscenter did a report on Javy and how he had/has a serious anger management problem. I guess he was pretty close to getting his walking papers before the league made him seek counseling. Now I suppose he's a model citizen, but I don't watch enough NBA to be able to say for certain.

01-05-2005, 07:54 PM
Amare should have gotten tossed. While it may not appear delibrate (sp?), he was definitly taunting Spree. I loved Amare's first tech though, always stick up for your teammates.

Zona Dave
01-05-2005, 07:57 PM
Keep it up Feline boy and I will T you up!!

Zona Dave
01-05-2005, 08:01 PM
Are NBA ref's worse than Pac-10 Refs?

Weighing in on the refs: Two takes

ESPN SportsCenter

Prior to the beginning of the NBA Finals, ESPN's Shelley Smith talked to a pair of NBA assistant coaches -- one in the East, one in the West -- for their take on some of the officials who will likely be on the floor when the Nets meet the Spurs.

Refs who constantly blow it
Bernie Fryer, Ken Mauer, Derrick Stafford, Eddie F. Rush, Tom Washington

Steve Javie is one of the veteran officials who will likely work the Finals.

On Rush: "If I see Ed Rush, I feel like we have no chance that night This guy doesn't have a chip on a shoulder, he has a 2 by 4."
On Fryer: "We call him replay because he's the guy responsible for the replay rule after he made that call in the Orlando-Charlotte game last year. And he threw out Greg Ostertag this year which was a controversial decision, too."
On Spooner: "He's the guy whose always on SportsCenter when the anchor says, "Wait till you see the stupid call made in this game."
On Stafford: "Big-time attitude problem and is moody. He's the guy who got in trouble with Pat Riley."
On Washington: "Spaces out a lot. Sometimes we wonder what planet he's on."

Refs who will admit they blew it
Dick Bavetta, Ted Bernhardt
On Berhardt: "He used to be one of the biggest jerks in the league, but he has become a guy who admits it when he makes a mistake. That's rare."

Refs who won't admit they blew it
Conspiracy Theory
"We heard that the league circulates memos to officials when to call a game loosely. It would be hard to prove, but when you see 50 free throws in one game and the next game they don't call bloody murder, you wonder."
Bob Delaney, Ron Garretson, Ken Mauer
On Delaney: "He's probably the least liked referee in the league. An arrogant stiff."
On Garretson: "He's a total jerk. His father used to run league, that's why he's a referee. He's a good official who thinks he's great. He thinks he's gets everything right, never makes a mistake. When Nick Van Exel went after him way back when, that was the greatest thing I ever saw."
On Mauer: "He can get hot under the collar and miss 2 or 3 calls in a row. And every time you try to talk to him he's a typical divorce lawyer with an answer for everything."

Refs who handle the game best
Bavetta, Dan Crawford, Bennett Salvatore, Steve Javie
On Bavetta: "If a guy gets hit in the groin, he'll pretend there's water on the floor and call out the ballboys rather than hit you with a time out. He understands what we're all trying to do out there."
On Crawford: "He's probably the best black official in the NBA and he's not there because he's black."

Whatever happened to...
...Violet Palmer. "Notice how she just faded away? She was terrible. She was worse than the other female who got fired."

Quickest triggers
Joe Crawford, Javie
On Crawford: "Crustiest guy in the league. Where Dick Bavetta will diffuse a situation, Joe Crawford will incite one. Don Nelson should have known better."

Refs who are reluctant to call a foul on a star
Spooner, Joe DeRosa
Comment: "The good officials know that's how the game is controlled. That's how we all make more money. No one's paying to see Tim Duncan on the bench."

Refs who are afraid to put Duncan on the benchSalvatore, Javie
On Javie: "He has it out for Gary Payton. It's almost funny to watch."

Refs who let you bang, which would seem to favor the Nets
Crawford, Salvatore, Greg Willard, Delaney, Bernhardt
On Salvatore: "A lot of people say that he doesn't let guys play in low post early in the game, but I never noticed that.
Comment: "After the first quarter in the playoffs, they don't call anything. They are not going to bail you out."

01-05-2005, 08:18 PM
I always loved seeing Salvatore or Crawford on the sideline.

Javie is very good anymore, but, unlike PGU...I think he should have determined no-foul...not on either player, if that's waht it takes to keep a player like Stoudemire on the floor. They'd never have done that to Garnett or Kobe or the like...right now, Amare's in the same class. He hasn't accomplished near as much and is nowhere near their skill-level, but as far as tops in the League, Amare's definately a top-10 player.

F Duke
01-05-2005, 09:47 PM
Big game tonight JMARK. Any predictions????

01-05-2005, 10:00 PM
Big game tonight JMARK. Any predictions????

I was hoping you'd be around...

I really don't see anyone on the Rockets slowing down Nash individually, thus, if they try, it'll be by trap or double-team...

Amare will go off for 30 or so, simply because he likes doing so against Yao.

If Suns have either JJ or Q making shots, Suns will win.

If neither makes shots...Houston could succeed in slowing down the Suns anf thus be around for the game.

If the Suns score 100+...Suns win.
If the Suns score 90-100...could be interesting.

Suns 112, Rockets 95...

F Duke
01-05-2005, 10:04 PM
Good analysis. I think your score is pretty spot on. Suns have too many thoroughbreds right now. I haven't seen the Rockets play since the trades went down so I really don't know what to expect out of Wesley and Barry but I think Van Gundy will be foolish to try and run with the fun and gun Suns

01-05-2005, 10:09 PM
JMark, while I agree the Amare is now in the league's elite, no player should be favored by the refs, which I'm sure we'd both agree on. Based on the fact that no player should be "above the law" (god I sound like Judge Dred) I think Amare should have gotten ejected. So while I agree with you, I respectfully disagree...

... p.s. Am i allowed to disagree we JMJ in the house (or fourm) that he built?

01-05-2005, 10:41 PM
Without disagreement, PGU, the world would be a very boring place...

I agree that no player should be "favored"...however, since the first tech was questionable, the second should never have been called. If ya can't call one and not the other, don't call either. It was a heated game, nothing serious was done...No tech, for either player, was needed...'specially given the circumstances...

01-05-2005, 10:42 PM
I just want the Suns players to be alert for Mutombo's "elbows of death"

01-05-2005, 11:13 PM
I haven't seen the Rockets play since the trades went down so I really don't know what to expect out of Wesley and Barry

Stupid Barry. Picks the one night the Suns are in town to amount ta anything :rolleyes:

...but I think Van Gundy will be foolish to try and run with the fun and gun Suns

Yer exactly right on this...so far it's working (as best it can)...

I expect the third to go in the Suns favor, but if it doesn't...Houston wins.

I don't trust the Suns in the Fourth yet.

01-05-2005, 11:51 PM
Suns shot too many threes, IMO...sure they were making them, but they only made the quality shots. When they settled for them or forced them, they missed badly.

Rockets played 'em tough. They played Suns tempo, while slowing them down...a bit...

Barry scared me for a while. He went off tonight. If the Rockets can get that kind of contribution, then Houston will be a much improved team.

Yao needs more touches, but I'm quite sure this is common knowledge :rolleyes:

Good game...Yer Rockets had me sweatin' bullets throught the first 42 minutes...

F Duke
01-06-2005, 02:20 PM
Alright JMark, I'm a believer in the Suns now. I still think they need a true 4 for the playoffs to take some of the load off Amare but they're the most impressive team in the league right now. The Rockets got back on defense pretty well early on but Phoenix just killed them with the 3's. I think Yao is still sick from the flu (not that it would have mattered). The Rockets are still a year away from being a contender. The pieces still aren't in place but the Jimmy Jackson trade surprisingly isn't as bad as I thought it was. The flow of their offense is much better without him. I miss his defense and leadership though.

01-06-2005, 02:31 PM
I was hoping the Suns could aquire Joe Smith from Milwaukee.

THey could do so without giving up any of their top players or their Lotto Pick

Smith (5.8) = 5.8 mill


Eisley's contract (4.4), Lampe (1) and either 2 2nd's or Milos Vujonic = 5.4 mill

That give's Phoenix the ability to have another skilled player on the floor, one who happens to be 7-foot and can rebound and hit the jumper from 15-18 feet.

PG - Nash...Barbosa, JJ
SG - JJ...Q, Jacobson
SF - Q...Marion, JJ, CJ
PF - Marion...Smith, Amare
C - Amare...Hunter, Smith

If they want to go big

SG - Q
SF - Marion
PF - Smith
C - Amare

I like it and Milwaukee would do it to trade 19mill for 10 mill while getting out from the contract a year earlier and getting either young prosects (Lampe/Milos) or prospect and picks (Lampe/2nds)...

The trade wouldn't affect Phoenix fianacially until the final year of Smith's contract...

01-06-2005, 02:49 PM
First of all, Smith is 6'9", or maybe 6'10" if you're being generous ... and he often doesn't play that tall. Nevertheless, he's a steady player who could probably help the Suns. But the Bucks wouldn't make that trade until they've officially given up on their season, and although they may be close to that, they're not there yet in the woebegotten East. In addition, they may be able to make a deal with someone else to gain similar cap relief while getting better players in return. But it can't hurt for the Suns to ask.

One other thing I'm puzzled about in your post is the reference to Eisley's contract. Eisley plays for the Jazz, right? Is some portion of his contract still on the Suns' books for some reason?

01-06-2005, 03:07 PM
Eisley's original contract of two years, 14 million was bought out for 10 million dollars.

Take this amount and subtract his new FA contract from it (vet-min, 1.2mill) and you know have his CAP total for the Suns...8.8million.

This counts evenly across the remaining life of the original contract, thus (4.4 and 4.4)

Most people don't realize it, but this is the way it is.

And Yah, I looked. Smith is 6-10 (according to NBA.com and ESPN) and is averaging 11ppg, 7rpg and .7bpg...while shooting 51% from the field and 82% from the line.

There's rumors floating that Milwaukee has shopped him. His contract is decent, but they apparently want out in hopes of keeping Redd. New Jersey is Numero uno, but reportedly is only offering a trade exemption and nothing else...thus the prospects of Lampe and either Milos or the picks should keep Phoenix involved inthe mix...