Arizona at Stanford ("Nick Robinson's Bane")

[Ben Hansen]

Stanford scrub Nick Robinson is going to get some payback today as the luckiest man on earth who hit a 30-footer at the buzzer to beat Arizona last year has been exposed as nothing more than a role player this year.

I didn't do a full preview for the game but here's my prediction.

Arizona 80, Stanford 72.

[section115d]

Ben,

IMHO, your prediction is too close. I expect AZ by 10+... possibly 15+.

Stanford w/o CH.... it could get very ugly.

[SnowCat]

'Furd is 6-7, 0-3. Why does that make this game scarier than if they were 12-1?

Oh well. 10 game win streak if we win this one.

[TopCat]

I will never again predict a blowout against Stanford... :(


Arizona 82
Stanford 79

[CactusPants]

Let's get this party started....

Arizona 79
Stanford 62

[TopCat]

Thank God the springy floor is gone!

[CactusPants]

Red jersey's again huh? Looking for our second ever win in those bad boys!

[GreedyHo]

why is this game not on Fox. I've seen commercials for it all week on the east coast. Beyond the glory is showing right now. Anyone on the east know why this is? It should be on Comcast like Thursdays game.

[BallinestCat27]

Salims gonna have a big game.

[TopCat]

Game over, Stoudamire hit his first three.

[BallinestCat27]

How come Hassan can shoot the last two games all of a sudden? Especially after how damned ugly it was up until now. I don't get it.

[CactusPants]

Looking good early.

[TopCat]

Confidence.

Seems like each of our guys needed a breakout shooting game to get out of the early season offensive doldrums.

[catgrad97]

I think I-Rad's going to have a big game.

[TopCat]

I'm listening on the radio, and watching the sports ticker. Who's watching the game on TV? The radio says Stanford is dragging. What do they look like?

[edgewood4]

Does anyone have a link to live audio online?

[SnowCat]

Every time I get REALLY disgusted during an Arizona game, I go out and chop 2 logs. I hope I don't get anything productive until at least the Minnesota Viking game.

[catgrad97]

Stanford is cleaning up the boards, but can't keep up with our D. Hernandez is on the bench right now. 'cats need to take advantage.

[TopCat]

Does anyone have a link to live audio online?
I'm listening through the UA website. It costs $9/month.

[catgrad97]

BTW, that goaltend call looked bogus.

[TopCat]

Sounds like Frye's going to have an off day today...

[GreedyHo]

Grunfeld is playing well. His dad is the Wizards GM. Someone needs to D him up.

[willubearcat]

Let's not make Gruenfeld a star today

[edgewood4]

Looks like Grunfield is on his way to a career day. Let's D him up a little better guys...

[TopCat]

Looks like Stanford's getting well against us. Terrible start. Our interior's getting torched, and Grunfeld's shooting lights out.

[catgrad97]

'cats need to pick up the perimeter D. Stanford is trying to be physical, setting hard picks.

[edgewood4]

Where is the defense today guys?

[SnowCat]

I'm not sure which is worse. Grunfeld owning us, or us going like 5 minutes and scoring 2 points.

[willubearcat]

Well there's a first, Channing had the ball knocked away :rolleyes:

[catgrad97]

Here we go again, chucking up threes...way to go Hot Sauce!

Arizona needs to play its game. I'm tired of seeing a Peter Prowitt get two easy points on our interior.

[TopCat]

Well, at least Hassan showed up today. He's keeping us in the game

[edgewood4]

They might be starting to chuck them up but they are still 4-7 from beyond the arch. They just need to be patient and let the offense come to them.

[catgrad97]

Physioc, I don't give a crap about what SAT score the Stanford Tree had. Call the game!

[jAZ]

Who was favored in this game? What was the line?

[edgewood4]

Not good, Channing picks up his 3rd. He really needs to stay out of foul trouble.

[TopCat]

edgewood4,

Frye doesn't have three, the ticker's wrong. I think he only has 1.

[edgewood4]

Oh ok, I was wondering why he was still in after picking up his 3rd. Thanks for the clarification.

[willubearcat]

Ivan needs to put his arms up when Little throws his hook shot up. Lute will make the adjustments and we will crush them in the second half.

[catgrad97]

Arizona's letting Stanford rattle the team with physical play. How many times have we seen that in Maples?

[TopCat]

Closing strong!

[budd1e_lee]

defense looks HORRIBLE, what happened guys?!?!? Hasssan is keeping us in it..

SALIM for 3, down 1, hopefully we can go into the locker room up a couple after this horrible showing.

[catgrad97]

Keep calling your timeouts, Trent Johnson. You can't stop the 'cats!

[TopCat]

Once again, I can't believe how badly Fox is struggling. Just awful... :(

[budd1e_lee]

There is Frye's.... FIRST??!?

[TopCat]

First foul on Frye

[edgewood4]

Apparently according to Sportsline Frye just picked up his 4th late in the first half :)

[CactusPants]

Who's FUGLIER Ernie Kent or Trent Johnson?

[catgrad97]

It doesn't matter how hot Arizona is, if a team comes out and plays hard and physical against the 'cats, the team can still look ordinary.

[TopCat]

The ticker sucks today. It lists Frye with 4 fouls. At this rate he'll have about 10 by the end of the game.

[budd1e_lee]

just horrid perimeter defense and thier inside guys are just throwing things up. somebody put a hand in grunfeld's face, adn you can't let Hernandez shoot WIDE OPEN 3's that will make for a long afternoon.

[willubearcat]

Who's FUGLIER Ernie Kent or Trent Johnson?

Johnson is weird looking, kinda alien like.

[UofAcat23]

I for one would rather give Stanford some major props for their 1st half play instead of bashing the Cats. Once again, I don't think we look that bad and I expect to run away with this in the 2nd half.

[TopCat]

I'm hoping Stanford runs out of gas in the second half...

Not a good showing at all. I was hoping to see more out of this team.

[budd1e_lee]

did the guys just think that the clock was going to run out before they could get a shot off?!? seem's like our head isn't really into it today, everyone seems a little lax on the defensive end and some stupid plays on the offense. I knew there was a reason I cringed when I saw this game was at noon, our guys never play well this early.

what are they shooting like 55%+?

[edgewood4]

Stanford is shooting 58% as of right now on 17-29 shooting.

[ringoUofAcats]

I second UofAcat23's thoughts.

[SnowCat]

1st half;

Outrebounded 17-13

Stanford shooting 59%, 56% from 3.

[Chicat]

Stanford is shooting 58% as of right now on 17-29 shooting.
And what are we shooting? 35%? I can't believe we aren't getting blown out of the building.

Defense needs to lock down in the second half.

[AzDave]

I for one would rather give Stanford some major props for their 1st half play instead of bashing the Cats. Once again, I don't think we look that bad and I expect to run away with this in the 2nd half.

I agree. The Cats can play better, but Stanford is hitting some tough shots. Grunfeld and Hernandez were left open a couple times, but other than that most of their shots have been contested. I'm not feeling too bad right now.

Salim is just unreal right now from deep.

[budd1e_lee]

And what are we shooting? 35%? I can't believe we aren't getting blown out of the building.

Defense needs to lock down in the second half.

I think this is sort of a case similar to the ASU game, we didnt shoot terribly, but they shot lights out. I can't see the furd playing much better than they are right now and there is only one place to go... DOWN. I see us clamping down on defense and running away with this one similar to the ASU game.

[TopCat]

The rebound stat is misleading, since we have 5 offensive boards to their 2. The problem is that they aren't missing their shots, so we aren't getting defensive boards.

On a positive, we have very few turnovers, while we've gotten a number of steals off Stanford. Need to work the ball and get better shots on offense.

[budd1e_lee]

The rebound stat is misleading, since we have 5 offensive boards to their 2. The problem is that they aren't missing their shots, so we aren't getting defensive boards.

On a positive, we have very few turnovers, while we've gotten a number of steals off Stanford. Need to work the ball and get better shots on offense.

I can only recall two steals, I think they only had 8 TO's at last count. Not many tipped balls on defense, we need to be more active, it looked a little better the last couple minutes.

[catgrad97]

While all our attention is held rapt by Marques Johnson's five favorite places to play, I would like to note that Arizona will come out strong the second half...that's just no guarantee the shots will fall. The 'cats need to win the rebounding battle and force more turnovers. Too many open looks from 3.

[TopCat]

I can only recall two steals, I think they only had 8 TO's at last count. Not many tipped balls on defense, we need to be more active, it looked a little better the last couple minutes.
4 steals. 2 for Hassan and 2 for Channing.

[budd1e_lee]

4 steals. 2 for Hassan and 2 for Channing.

touche slappy...

most of those were late in the half then weren't they?

[djcat2]

For some reason, Rob always get the best of Frye. Channing needs to step it up and go inside for some score. I think Lute is seeing that and placing Fox in the game to help Frye out. CR needs to take better shots because he is jacking up unnecessary shots without looking to pass.

[budd1e_lee]

Play Ball!!!!

[catgrad97]

Arizona is going to shoot poorly today. Force turnovers and get the boards!!!

[budd1e_lee]

Oh.... My... ****....

we can't make a lay-in and they cant miss ANYTHING

[Chicat]

Ugly Ugly Ugly

[budd1e_lee]

WEVE got BIG BIG trouble, Salim is hurt, and we are down 9....

[TopCat]

Bad to worse...

[edgewood4]

What's wrong with Salim?

[Chicat]

Nice Channing!

[catgrad97]

Channing keeping us in the game. Other guys need to step up with Salim out.

How does Isaiah Fox lose that rebound? Get Brielmaier in!

[budd1e_lee]

looked like he landed awkwardly, he was jogging toword the locker room, he should be back

[LegallyKenny]

What's wrong with Salim?

He hurt himself flopping?

[UofAcat23]

How the hell is Stanford suddenly playing like a good team????????

[drewthejew]

terrible defensive effort today. They're shooting lights outs, but they're also WIDE OPEN. gotta love the no call with Hernandez shoving Stoudamire and getting the easy three.

[SnowCat]

Stanford now shooting 61% for the game. Exactly why are they 6-7?

[budd1e_lee]

How the hell is Stanford suddenly playing like a good team????????

anybody can look like a good team when it looks like the other team isnt even on the floor... its about time to step your game up guys

[willubearcat]

Do you suppose the Cats saw an easy ASSwho win and thought they could just show up?

[catgrad97]

Salim is back...whew!

[ZONACAT]

Just wondering when your boy is going to show up?

[edgewood4]

Good news on Salim, looks like we could really need him today.

[UofAcat23]

Stoudamire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LegallyKenny]

Next player to pull up in transition should be benched, especially if its Shakur

[edgewood4]

Geez the game track on Sportsline is delayed soo much...

[budd1e_lee]

Just wondering when your boy is going to show up?

when is anybody outside of salim and channing going to show up thanks...

Ive got to give this game my full attention, ill be back after this debacle :angry: :fur:

[catgrad97]

Perimeter defense for Arizona has really regressed today. The hangover from yesterday's bad practice?

[willubearcat]

SS with the knee high socks? Never seen him do this before. Maybe he got a tattoo?

[catgrad97]

Fox lost ANOTHER rebound. Sigh...

[Chicat]

They should let Isaiah just stay up in NorCal so that he can transfer to the San Francisco Teachers College for the Blind, Deaf, and Fumbling. :rolleyes:

[willubearcat]

I think we have given their fans a little hope ... :rolleyes:

[UofAcat23]

It's official, we look like sh*t.

[catgrad97]

Nice FSN commercial with four Lutes. We need them all today...or this will be our worst showing since Virginia.

[Bison79]

Just checking in, not sure if this is accurate or not, but how the **** is Stanford shooting 60%? from the field and three point range?

[catgrad97]

What Arizona player said the team wanted to "destroy" Stanford? :rolleyes:

Hey, a win is just fine, thank you.

[willubearcat]

NICE stats IROD.

[willubearcat]

Enough already. Sack up Cats.

[SnowCat]

Looking like BearDownBaby got one of the "unwinnables" right. I find being dominated by a crappy 6-7 team like very hard to swallow.

[edgewood4]

How in the world are we shooting 18-52 from the field. This is terrible.. 37% ??????? Come on guys!

[catgrad97]

Fox for Frye, I-Rad out. All the Cats' points will have to come from the perimeter.

[catshoop]

salim looks tired all day

[Taylor]

G-d damn, can't they do anything right? Nice pass to press row.

[edgewood4]

Fox has 3 TO'S yank him !

[willubearcat]

This game is going down in the record books for most blocked shots by white guys.

[edgewood4]

I was thinking the same thing willubearcat. Who is this Prowitt kid blocking Hassan's stuff....

[catgrad97]

I just had to recall that Trent Johnson was the coach of that Nevada team that dominated a top-five Kansas team at home last year.

Arizona is laying the same kind of egg today. Only it's in-conference, so it's worse.

[djcat2]

Jacking up shots without looking to pass, too much individual plays, and rushing everything. Stanford has our numbers. We can't come back from this.

[edgewood4]

Grunsfield is shooting a nice 91% from the field today.. WTF put someone in his face at all times...!!

[ringoUofAcats]

Stoudamire is regressing... Show us leadership!!!!

[TopCat]

I hate Stanford...

Why do they always shoot lights out against us?

Well, our offense is getting exposed today. Back to the drawing board.

[Bison79]

I guess revenge is a dish served really REALLY cold, we're Stanford's b!tch for the last 5 of 6 now?

Ah well, bring 'em to mckale...

[edgewood4]

Alright, let's make this comeback guys!

[catshoop]

com'n cats! time to wake up!

[catgrad97]

It will be an absolute miracle if Arizona can find a way to win this game.

[willubearcat]

I hear a faint heartbeat...

[djcat2]

By the players. I had a bad feeling about it when I read all the Cats comment about destroying Stanford and stuff.

[edgewood4]

Keep giving it to Channing down low, if he gets doubled kick it out to Slim for the trey if not he can work on his hook, seems he's playing a lot better now.. Let's go CATS!

[catgrad97]

Stanford took its final timeout. Turn up the heat on the pressure, 'cats!

[Taylor]

It will be an absolute miracle if Arizona can find a way to win this game.


I'm hoping for OT. Don't see how else they can still cover. I think I may be losing back the $$ I won on the Cal game.

[edgewood4]

OMG Grunfield misses another shot, he's only shooting 11-13 now!

[willubearcat]

That last sequence sucked

[Taylor]

Goaltending. Pac 10 refs ****ing terrible.

[catgrad97]

Again, Stanford has NO timeouts left. DENY EVERYWHERE, defense! Don't just sit back and wait for a shot!

[ZONACAT]

Shakur is awful.

*shaking head*

[BibbysTowelDude]

Mustafa makes me sick. I cant stand him... He has no pride!

[djcat2]

Goaltending. Pac 10 refs ****ing terrible.

There's no blaming the refs today. We simply went away from playing team ball and defense.

[Taylor]

True, but it doesn't help when they don't get called for such obvious goaltending when we're making a big run.

[willubearcat]

There's no blaming the refs today. We simply went away from playing team ball and defense.

Your both right. Cat's are playing like crap AND that was goaltending.

[Taylor]

Would be down to five with the goaltending.

[catgrad97]

Shakur hits a 3 then gets called for a quick foul. He can make no headway today.

[NutFlushCat]

Anyone else think Shakur is just playing terribly?

[willubearcat]

How many blocks does Hairyass have?

[catgrad97]

Good call. Frye kept his pivot foot, so no travelling.

[edgewood4]

Harysz has 2 blocks according to Sportsline.

[ZONACAT]

I'm starting to believe the Ced Bozeman comparisons. He's been brutal this season.

[Taylor]

Salim needs to throw away his bong. He's WAY too winded.

[edgewood4]

Channing's only missed FT of the day comes at the time when we really need it the most. Dissapointing....

[catgrad97]

Taylor, he's not winded, he's playing hurt. Did you see him limping after that last foul?

[NutFlushCat]

Great press defense by Shakur and then he turns it over

[NutFlushCat]

Now fouled out, worst game by a Cat I have ever seen

[Taylor]

How the hell was that a foul on Shakur?

[edgewood4]

Game over. 10 points with only 1:00 left, we aren't coming back.

[Taylor]

Taylor, he's not winded, he's playing hurt. Did you see him limping after that last foul?


Didn't notice.

[catgrad97]

This. Is. NOT. Our. Day. :fur:

And I don't think anyone can blame our seniors for this loss. Salim is playing hurt, bathed in sweat. Frye made his shots.

But Arizona has no leadership at the point guard position right now.

[edgewood4]

It's back to the drawing board for Mustafa and the offense. Hopefully we will have everything back together for next week.

[Taylor]

Nice D, Dillon. :rolleyes:

[Taylor]

I'm going to go downtown, watch Gil torch the 'Wolves, and get drunk.

[djcat2]

Last year, after losing to the Turds, we went into a tailspin. Before that, we were on a 10 game winning streak.

[Bison79]

Life goes on guys. It's not the end of the world.

Standford can have their moment in the sun, I'd prefer a learning experience in the pac-10 followed up with a deep tournament run, than have a record like standford did last year and bow out so quickly.

We're still a lock for all that really matters while Standford will have to beg and claw their way to a possible bubble team.

Can't win 'em all, ya know? :)

[willubearcat]

The students are going to storm the floor. I only hope one of them trips and breaks a leg. DAMN IT!

[Taylor]

Taylor's dictionary:

Fawking idiot: Marques Johnson.

[Bison79]

willub,

Consider it a compliment, storming the floor means they think they pulled off the upset of the century.

[Taylor]

It's not as bad as losing to Butler, ot Georgetown. :roll:

[catgrad97]

I like your take, Bison. We'll get Stanford back.

But Arizona can't have another regression like this in-conference, or the Final Four dreams are all over.

[edgewood4]

We shot 37% today and they shot 59%. That is completely unacceptable. They were lights out today though. O well...

[Taylor]

willub,

Consider it a compliment, storming the floor means they think they pulled off the upset of the century.


Didn't they? :rolleyes:

[willubearcat]

The stanford chick is hop challenged.

[Taylor]

I hate that hairyass guy.



OMG, who are the huge fat broads?

[budd1e_lee]

We shot 37% today and they shot 59%. That is completely unacceptable. They were lights out today though. O well...

they shot 59% because we played ZERO defense... was this last year's team on the floor?!?! :angry:

[catgrad97]

Taylor, I have to wait before I rep you again. But you're right, what is with all the "big-boned" women loving Bay Area basketball?

[Taylor]

Gro Stranfrurd!!! Reer numbrer run!!!

[djcat2]

I like your take, Bison. We'll get Stanford back.

But Arizona can't have another regression like this in-conference, or the Final Four dreams are all over.

It is placing so much on the "we'll get you back" crap that got our team into this trouble. If we treated this like a regular Pac-10 game, I'm sure the results will be different.

[Taylor]

Taylor, I have to wait before I rep you again. But you're right, what is with all the "big-boned" women loving Bay Area basketball?


Big boned? How about fat-assed? That chick was so fat, she couldn't zip up her jump suit. She looked like a red and black sausage. Ugh.

[budd1e_lee]

It is placing so much on the "we'll get you back" crap that got our team into this trouble. If we treated this like a regular Pac-10 game, I'm sure the results will be different.

I dont think anything could have made the results of this game different other than having the team SHOW UP for the damn game

[catgrad97]

djcat, I didn't mean it that way. Arizona lost this game because it didn't put in the effort, not because it was so intent on revenge.

The team got complacent after those double-digit wins over Cal and ASU. Back to basics, guys!

[Bison79]

CG97,

I think what really changed my thinking was the 97 team, I hate it when people make comparisons, but I strongly believe losing games in the regular season can only help.

I mean how many 1-loss 2-loss or 3-loss teams have actually ever won the NCAA title, since the 64-team started?

[Taylor]

The "winning streak" is over. Maybe Salim can start showering again.

[spartuna]

I'm picking J.P. Prince up at the airport!

[spartuna]

I'm going to have Nic declare for the pac 10 early!

[LegallyKenny]

I would say the same about our next interior recruit to play alongside Channing, but uh....we don't believe in recruiting big men who can play.

[catgrad97]

Funny you make that comparison, Bison, because the '97 team was the only one that ever made me really lose hope. And it was in a situation much like the Stanford game today: down 10 to South Alabama with just over five minutes remaining, I thought the team was done.

After ALL the losses in-conference that team had gone through, the South Alabama game, for the first 35 minutes, was the last straw. I hung up my hopes on that season, chalking it up to massive underachievement by great talent again.

And then, of course, JT sparks that 10-0 run and it's all over. I was in a daze by April.

[budd1e_lee]

people kept making comparisons last year too, we dont have the leadership on this team, unless they really come together and realize that every game is important and you have to play defense night in and night out, not just a half here and there, we are going nowhere

[Bison79]

I think it was the Providence game that was going to give me a heart attack, no way in hell I wanted to be the first to allow a double digit seed into the final four (unless it's happened before? besides 'Nova").

My grandfather and I used to say "if you don't lose, you can't improve." Losing helps point out your weaknesses, while coaches try to point out weaknesses in win, how often do players really remember how bad they did when they won?

[CactusPants]

All in all I still feel good about this team. Unfortunately we looked like the way we played in November. However I still have confidence in this team.

[budd1e_lee]

My grandfather and I used to say "if you don't lose, you can't improve." Losing helps point out your weaknesses, while coaches try to point out weaknesses in win, how often do players really remember how bad they did when they won?


What sort of weakness can you point out today tho, this wasn't the same team that has shown up this year, even the egg we layed at Virginia wasn't this bad. You can't fix what isn't a tendency, if they had found a way to exploit our defense then that's a weakness. We simply didn't play any, that's a case of needing a nice @ss whoopin to get someone to show up.

EDIT: I thought we said if you start a game thread for a loss you were not allowed to start any more.... blame it all on BEN!!!! :wink2: :slap:

[catgrad97]

One of the assistants should have busted out the Virginia tape after that practice yesterday. If they ever see one of our top eight getting complacent that way again, Pastner, Roz or Tention need to make the team watch tape of this game.

[Taylor]

I'm off to see the Wizards...

[BigCat]

It's official, we look like sh*t.
UofACat--use your head a bit more,and less of your heart--you jinxed us! :smokin:

[PointGuardU03]

Originally posted by budd1e_lee
I thought we said if you start a game thread for a loss you were not allowed to start any more.... blame it all on BEN!!!! I think that if you start the game threads and the team wins then you should keep starting game threads until they loose, SoSH style. No more of this random bs, we jinxed the cats today.