View Full Version : Josh - now is the time to quit ...
11-14-2002, 09:37 PM
..because if you believe what your letter says, it is absolutely inappropriate (unless you have Gregie ethic) for you to continue to be a part of the media coverage of UA sports (which this site proports to be).
I think you wrote this letter to stimulate interest in this site. If you were sincere, I expect you will discontinue any contact with the UA sports establishment.
This letter is marketing bulls**t and you know it. I actually agree with what you say in the letter but this is not the forum for it. Did you actually mail that letter?
If you did send this letter, why would other fans need to know unless it was for marketing purposes?
Ron in Poway
BTW, I agree with the sentiments in your letter - just do it the right way.
Hank of sb
11-14-2002, 09:51 PM
I do think the letter should go CERTIFIED MAIL (with return receipt) to the administration, AND to the 'Daily Star' as well. I agree, I'd feel better then.
I concur the letter was well written, and to the point. As a result, the letter made its point.
PowayCat, you made yours as well.
11-14-2002, 10:42 PM
My name is Jim Storey and I am ultimately responsible for ALL content posted on this site (not the message board though :) )
First things first. I respect your opinion and want people to voice their opinion on this site as they see fit. However, I must point out a few things regarding your post.
1. Josh Gershon is not a part of the media. He is a great contributor to this site and many people who visit this site value his input and knowledge regarding UA athletics. Josh is not an employee of GOAZCATS.com nor is he compensated in anyway for his article or postings. He wrote the letter as a Fan, nothing more. Therefore, in my opinion it is not inappropriate for him to voice his opinion... just as you have just done.
2. I did not ask Josh to write this letter. This was a letter from a fan that is dissapointed in UA football and some actions of the university. As a result, it is not Marketing bulls*it.
3. I encourage and invite you to write a letter/column expressing your feelings. I cannot promise you I will post it on main page of the site, but I am willing to review it with Ben and possibly post it.
3. If he was an employee or being paid for his journalistic contributions it may be inappropriate for him to have written this letter. BUT he is not, and I think you as well as many feel what Mr. Gershon is correct, "I actually agree with what you say in the letter."
4. Thank you for your post, but please understand this was a letter that I approved for posting because I felt it was the voice of a fan. It has merit, and as a fan myself I think it is important to be able to voice your opinion to others. This was an unusual situation and I allowed it because of that.
5. Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any more comments/questions or anything else.
11-14-2002, 11:13 PM
lay off of Josh! He's a great guy and a terrific young writer/poster. Like many of us, he's disheartened at what's become of the football program. As a tried and true UA fan it's been embarrassing this week. I think Josh has every right to send his letter and publish it here. He's speaks for a lot of concerned people out there. Give him a break!
Bearing Down on Josh's Fine Letter
PS Aren't you the guy who attacked Judd Graham earlier this week with the same type of overly critical post?
11-14-2002, 11:22 PM
I heard many people discussing the idea of writing similar letters and sending them, Josh just had the fortitude to actually do it. I understand that you feel this was a private letter and that it should have remained private, but this website is about expressing opinions- and thats exactly what he did. Would you rather that Josh said the exact same thing on the messageboard without the "dear"?
11-14-2002, 11:25 PM
PowayCat - Who made you judge on what Josh should do???? Until you run your life perfectly (and you have proof of it) then do not judge what actions others should take. When you run your life perfectly, you may spend all day bossing ME around and telling ME what to do.
I appreciate Jim Storey allowing Josh's letter to be posted and I appreciate Josh saying what many people feel. Thanks
11-15-2002, 01:07 AM
all time favorite writers and I wholeheartedly agree with him. Coach Mack's system may have worked in the past but obviously it did not work here. This debacle has set the Arizona football progarm back at least five years.
As a loyal fan, Josh has the right to voice his opinoin on this or any other U of A issue. If one does not agree, they have the right post a counter argument regarding the issue. Having passionate fans is what makes Arizona great and that is why as an alumni, I have such love for the University. However, I am not blind to it's shortcomings both with the Administration and with the Athletic Department. Yesterday, it was a very dark day for our beloved program. We are joked about and ridiculed across the nation for what transpired. So, for Josh to write what many, many students and alumni thought about, showed character in it's own right.
11-15-2002, 02:41 AM
Let me first state that as a long time Arizona fan, class of '69, I am saddened by the events of the past 48 hours. This is not a pretty picture for all involved and casts a dark cloud over a University and sports program I have cherished over the years.
It is hard to define right in a situation as dire as this but as in war, the responsibility for failure is layed at the feet of the general, not the infantry man. Right or wrong the man at the top is paid the big bucks to create, promote and maintain a well managed successful program. Sound communication is essential for success in life at any level.
Unfortunately, the damage is done and the relationship is not only tenuous, it appears unrepairable. The outcome is a no win situation for all parties involved. That said, it is probably best to point Arizona Football in a different direction. This type of debacle does the reputation of the university no apparent good and only serves to undermine the future of the football program.
In response to Poway, I found the piece by Josh to be well written and spot on relative to the events that have unfolded. Kudos for his courage in expressing his opinion about a program he loves. The first amendment is everyone's right, you don't have to agree and you certainly have an equal right to express your own opinion.
On a personal note, I look forward to the day the football program rights itself and basks in victory rather than being mired in defeat.
11-15-2002, 02:53 AM
i liked the article..well written, and i agree with everything that dr cat says!
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