Brandan Wright Commits?

[oebabyblue]

Following his OV, Brandan Wright, the #1 ranked PF in the 2006 class, has committedTo North Carolina.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=78&p=9&cfg=bb&c=8&yr=2006

dook fans have to be losing their minds right now.

wow.

oe

[Ziggiles]

Does this put Duke back in the Lance Thomas fold?

[Jason Scheer]

Ok this is sick..

[oebabyblue]

It may put K back in the mental hospital.

No one....& I mean no one saw this coming. Dave Telep has confirmed that Wright committed to Roy Williams before leaving Chapel Hill this weekend.

Vandy, dook & Kentucky coaches have been notified.

done deal.

sorry, wolfie.

oe

[Ziggiles]

They are looking like Udub with all the recruits, they have three seniors on a roster of 11, with 6 recuits commited for next season which equals to 14 schollies, i thought the limit is 13, whose schollie are they going to pull?

[oebabyblue]

Here is the link:

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/453159.html

wow. & I mean wow.

oe

[TucsonDon]

I'm sure everything was done by the book.

[ZONACAT]

This just kills us on Lance.

[ByJoveByJingle]

This just kills us on Lance.
I think we are OK with Lance.

[oebabyblue]

Tucson -

Cry for me little girl. Let the tears flow.

oe

[Jason Scheer]

I'm sure everything was done by the book.

Until they are caught Don it is all irrelevant. Also I'm not sure about Lance but this definitely doesn't help us

[oebabyblue]

If Lance still heads to AZ, it is dook that gets killed by this.

oe

[TucsonDon]

Until they are caught Don it is all irrelevant.
Yeah, I get it bud...That never stops half the people on this board from constantly *****ing about Texas. Its a message board; folks are entitled to opine.

[Itamicbomb]

Congratulations, oe. He's one and done, so you'll have a very nice team next year.

I would be more concerned, but I expect Josh McRoberts to return next year, so we've got that going for us, which is nice.

[Ziggiles]

I say again, the numbes don't add up, 11 players under schollie, 3 are seniors leaving 5 schollies for next year with 6 commits, who gets fuKced?

[oebabyblue]

Carolina will have a good team for plenty years to come. Great mix of 4 year guys & NBA talent.

oe

[oebabyblue]

Ziggs -

Damian Grant is no longer playing basketball at UNC. The numbers do add up. Also, Wes Miller may pay his own way next year & Carolina will continue to pursue Thaddeous Young.

oe

[Jason Scheer]

Yeah, I get it bud...That never stops half the people on this board from constantly *****ing about Texas. Its a message board; folks are entitled to opine.

True but with Texas people have come out and said it that were associated with the actual shadiness. I don't have a problem with your opinion because I can see how it is interesting that Roy is pulling down every top recruit, especially when he wasn't favored to go there at all.

[ByJoveByJingle]

When has Carolina not pulled in top-shelf talent? Even when they weren't playing top-shelf basketball . . .

[Ziggiles]

Ziggs -

Damian Grant is no longer playing basketball at UNC. The numbers do add up. Also, Wes Miller may pay his own way next year & Carolina will continue to pursue Thaddeous Young.

oe


Grant is listed as a senior anyways so his schoolie is already being eat'n up by one of the 5 incoming players before Wright, if Miller pays his way then you have enough, but if Young commits then what?

[oebabyblue]

You know what makes landing a stud like wright even better?

It's reading the cry-baby drivel from such panty-waists as Tucson Don.

Carolina is at the very top of the crop as far as basketball programs go. Roy Williams couldn't be a hotter commodity as a coach right now, as far as recruiting is concerned.

I admit, that it is very surprising that Wright would pull the trigger like that after UNC was never considered as a leader in this race.

But that makes reading the whining garbage from Tucson Don even more fun.

Cry for me some more, Donna.

oe

[ByJoveByJingle]

You know what makes landing a stud like wright even better?

It's reading the cry-baby drivel from such panty-waists as Tucson Don.

Carolina is at the very top of the crop as far as basketball programs go. Roy Williams couldn't be a hotter commodity as a coach right now, as far as recruiting is concerned.

I admit, that it is very surprising that Wright would pull the trigger like that after UNC was never considered as a leader in this race.

But that makes reading the whining garbage from Tucson Don even more fun.

Cry for me some more, Donna.

oe
I had the smallest amount of sympathy for your position until that post. Yuck. **** UNC and Cryin' Roy. :rolleyes:

[oebabyblue]

I don't want, or need any of your sympathy.

They could use that over at the dook boards right now. Hope you land Lance.

oe

[oebabyblue]

Ziggs -

After checking again, Miller will be off scholarship again, which lines out the schollie question for you. Can't see how Thaddeous Young gets to Carolina now. My guess is that he is marked for Memphis.

oe

[Casanova]

Hey OE, you wanna see some crying, go to Cats Pause.... They had this recruiting guru(lol) over there feeding them this bunk for weeks that Wright was 99% theirs....

Congrats btw, Roy sure is loading up. I guess they're gasm-ing on IC today.

[Casanova]

the recruiting forum over there oe. ha

[yousty7]

And we thought that Arizona was going to have a problem with playing time. Some of these players on UNC have to be able to realize that they aren't going to get much PT.
Overloading on talent is always good, but it can cause a transfer mess or make some of the players very unhappy.

[oebabyblue]

And we thought that Arizona was going to have a problem with playing time. Some of these players on UNC have to be able to realize that they aren't going to get much PT.
Overloading on talent is always good, but it can cause a transfer mess or make some of the players very unhappy. Roy seemed to do a pretty good job last year at juggling minutes with all that talent. I mean, they won a national title, put 4 players in the lottery & a fifth in the NBA thereafter.

It's not like at dook, where MCdinalds AAs like Mike Thompson just sit on the end of the bench w/o any hope for playing time.

Carolina plays at a pace where there are plenty of shots to be had. If he kept everyone on last year's team happy with their PT, he can do it with this upcoming group as well.

oe

[Itamicbomb]

Carolina only had six good players last year (although they, with the exception of Jawad, were really freakin' good - not trying to malign UNC), so splitting up the PT was not that difficult.

[Casanova]

Roy seemed to do a pretty good job last year at juggling minutes with all that talent. I mean, they won a national title, put 4 players in the lottery & a fifth in the NBA thereafter.

It's not like at dook, where MCdinalds AAs like Mike Thompson just sit on the end of the bench w/o any hope for playing time.

Carolina plays at a pace where there are plenty of shots to be had. If he kept everyone on last year's team happy with their PT, he can do it with this upcoming group as well.

oe

We don't know that everyone was "Happy" last year, if you were a senior Like Melvin Scott for example, it was too late and you had nowhere to go anyway.

I saw where you checked out the Uk forum, some strong sour grapes over there eh?

[oebabyblue]

I can guarantee that we won't have anybody getting Mike Thompsoned.

oe

[Casanova]

Ok, so there will be no transfers. We'll see........

[Theicecreamman]

oebabyblue, your sister sure is fine ! :smokin:

[Josh Gershon]

Wow... Wright is a future All-American if I've ever seen one. He and Wayne Ellington will make an amazing duo.

[yousty7]

This UNC class is, in my opinion, a little better then that of Ohio States class with the commitment of Wright.
I think alot of the players on these teams (ex. Oden, Cook, Ellington, Wright, Lawson) are all one and done. This should make it hard for them to win a national championship because they are all going to be inexpierenced with 4 or 5 starting freshmen.

[oebabyblue]

Oden definately & Wright may be 1 & done.....doubt that the rest are.

oe

[TheCat]

OE,

NC about to make Duke its bitc*. Wait till you see coach K's face turn red the next time Roy puts the hammer down. Might not be next year but the year after for sure.

[Itamicbomb]

You're right, TheCat, I sure get tired of beating UNC every freakin' year. What is it now, 17 out of the last 20?

Duke will destroy UNC this year, next year there should be two good games. Our cupboard won't exactly be bare.

[Casanova]

OE,

NC about to make Duke its bitc*. Wait till you see coach K's face turn red the next time Roy puts the hammer down. Might not be next year but the year after for sure.


Hmm, Roy couldn't do that last year with his NBA squad.

[ajzlakers1]

Calling all Dukies! Calling all Dukies! :roll:

I've never seen a Duke pile-on on this board. Gotta hand it to you guys.

You're right.

[Itamicbomb]

Seriously, where is Riesen?

[oebabyblue]

Roy's the loose woman of college recruiting.

Wolfman - I have already had to nail you for posting other people's material on this board & passing it off as your own.

Now you using John's quotes from over at TDD & posting them here?

Do you have an original thought of your own, or is everything you post someone else's garbage?

oe

[Casanova]

Wolfman - I have already had to nail you for posting other people's material on this board & passing it off as your own.

Now you using John's quotes from over at TDD & posting them here?

Do you have an original thought of your own, or is everything you post someone else's garbage?

oe

Hmm, you know, interesting you mention this because in another thread I thought something Wolfie had posted looked very familiar word for word.

[oebabyblue]

He never posts his own stuff.

It's always lifted from other posters on other sites.....word for word. Last time I busted him for it, he begged me through private messages not to out him. I saved the messages he sent, because I figured this would come up again. & of course, it did.

Wolfman is the Mili Vanili of sports message boards.

oe

[JMarkJohns]

I would be more concerned, but I expect Josh McRoberts to return next year, so we've got that going for us, which is nice.

I think McRoberts is gone after this year. Ainge wanted him BAD this past draft and was willing to use a mid-first on him. The Celtics will be worse this season than last, so the pick will be higher, which means McRoberts gets his money.

IMO, McRoberts is a top-10 prospect, any draft until 2008.

[beardownbaby]

Wolfman - ...

Do you have an original thought of your own, or is everything you post someone else's garbage?

oe
It would have been better said this way, oe:

Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you, is that your thing? You come into a bah, read some obscure passage and then pretend -- you pawn it off as your own ideas just to impress some girls, embarrass my friend?

You see, the sad thing about a guy like you is that in 50 years you're gonna start doing some thinkin' of your own, and you're gonna come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life. One, don't do that. And two, you dropped a hundred-and-fifty grand on a f*ckin' education you coulda got for a dollah-fifty in late chahges at the public library.

[oebabyblue]

I think McRoberts is gone after this year. Ainge wanted him BAD this past draft and was willing to use a mid-first on him. The Celtics will be worse this season than last, so the pick will be higher, which means McRoberts gets his money.

IMO, McRoberts is a top-10 prospect, any draft until 2008. McRoberts may have been a lottery pick as a HS senior, but nothing he is going to learn at dook will bump his draft status up.

oe

[beardownbaby]

Yeah, because Mike Shasheffski doesn't know how to help place his players high in the draft.

Sincerely,

Christian Laettner, Bobby Hurley, Grant Hill, Elton Brand, William Avery, Corey Maggette, Carlos Boozer, Mike Dunleavy, Jason Williams, Shane Battier and many others I'm probably leaving out.

[JMarkJohns]

Let's not allow personal bias and hatred cast a blind-eye towards commen sense.

Name the last Duke Lottory pick that hasn't done well. Name the last player.

I dislike Duke as much as the next guy, but McRoberts is very good right now. A year under K and alongside Williams should teach him all he needs to become a top-10 pick. Maybe top-5.

Don't use Randolph, either. That kid was his own problem.

[ByJoveByJingle]

Let's not allow personal bias and hatred cast a blind-eye towards commen sense.

Name the last Duke Lottory pick that hasn't done well. Name the last player.

I dislike Duke as much as the next guy, but McRoberts is very good right now. A year under K and alongside Williams should teach him all he needs to become a top-10 pick. Maybe top-5.

Don't use Randolph, either. That kid was his own problem.
Jason . . . errr, Jay Williams.

[CactusPants]

oebabyblue,

WHO IS THAT CHICK IN YOUR SIG?!?!?!?!?!?

[JMarkJohns]

Jason . . . errr, Jay Williams.

OK, who wasn't nearly paralyzed from an accicent.

Langston will be the most popular, which is another fair comparison, but that was nearly 7/8 years ago.

Dunleavy isn't the player most expected, but 13 per isn't bad and he's improved yearly.

Point is, Just because a player goes to Duke, doesn't mean the same thing it used to. As BDB pointed out.

[Itamicbomb]

oebabyblue,

WHO IS THAT CHICK IN YOUR SIG?!?!?!?!?!?

His mom :roll:

[ByJoveByJingle]

His crappy play happened before the (non-paralyzing) accident. He didn't play at all afterwards . . . unless you consider his absolutely, horrifyingly, shockingly bad color commentating for an ESPN (I think) game broadcast to be "playing." In which case the crappy play continued unabated.

[ByJoveByJingle]

OK, who wasn't nearly paralyzed from an accicent.

Langston will be the most popular, which is another fair comparison, but that was nearly 7/8 years ago.

Dunleavy isn't the player most expected, but 13 per isn't bad and he's improved yearly.

Point is, Just because a player goes to Duke, doesn't mean the same thing it used to. As BDB pointed out.

Also . . I've not done a scientific study on the topic because, frankly I don't really care about Duke that much, but it does seem to the casual eye that there is an inverse proportional rule going on with Duke NBA players. The less time they spend with K, the better they turn out in the NBA.

[JMarkJohns]

Fair enough, so my one and done, straight lottory scenerio is vaild.

Still, the main reason being is that the best NBA players rarely stay in school for more than two years. No matter the school.

[oebabyblue]

Christian Laettner, Bobby Hurley, Grant Hill, Elton Brand, William Avery, Corey Maggette, Carlos Boozer, Mike Dunleavy, Jason Williams, Shane Battier and many others I'm probably leaving out. Elton Brand is the only big man on that list whom K has put in the lottery in the last 10 years. Boozer was a 2nd rounder. K has more of a reputation for his post players' draft stocxk plummeting while in college then he does a reputation of "placing them high in the draft"

Those that are placed high in the draft(Laettner, Ferry et al) usually **** the bed & are NBA busts.

Elton Brand is the only post player from dook that I can remember who has been a good NBAer from his 1st year in the leage. & don't give me Carlos Boozer. His time at dook was wasted setting screens for Jason Williams.....just as Shavlik Randolph's was doing the same for Redick.

Post players just don't develop into quality NBA talent while at dook & it's a fact. The offense is run around the permiter to take advantage of the 8th grade girls 3 pt. line. K stopped running any offense through the post as option 1 many years ago.

Hey...but I'm sure this will be different......

Wojo is going to turn that kid into the next Kevin Mchale.

Just you watch.

oe

[Itamicbomb]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is an excellent explanation as to why Shelden Williams will be the Player of the Year in 2006.

[Casanova]

"don't give me Carlos Boozer. His time at dook was wasted setting screens for Jason Williams"

Oe, you certainly could give Wolfman Duke a run for his money. First off, Boozer in his "screen-setting career" at Duke managed to be named Pre-Season NIT-MVP, ACC Tournament-MVP, a 3rd team All-American. and has 1,506 career points at Duke. Hell Dunleavy doesn't even have that many points and he had the advantage of the 3 point line. And Boozer has obviously done fairly well for himself in the NBA with his 14 ppg and 9.3 rpg average..

[oebabyblue]

Shelden Williams is not going to be POY this year.

That trophy already has JJ Redick's name on it. That trophy had Redick's name on it the day after the deadline to pull your name out of the 2005 NBA Draft.

Cas - Boozer didn't improve that much at all, while at dook. He and K had an agreement that he would stay 3 years & then go league.....well.....Boozer wasn't ready for the association after 3 years, but off he went anyway.

He has made himself a pretty good NBA career, but most of that improvement & development came in college. K made a 2nd round draft pick out of a top 10 HS recruit.

wow. doesn't exactly knock me over.

oe

[JMarkJohns]

Actually, looking at the NBA in an NBA light, Duke made a 2nd-round steal and top-10 player from the draft out of an undersized (6-8) and unathletic big with quationable defensive ability and questioned desire.

Duke wasn't enough to get him drafted high because of his negatives, but his positives overcame. Duke and K had as much to do with that as anything/anyone.

Boozer should have went top-20 and entered with top-10 skill.

[oebabyblue]

Duke wasn't enough to get him drafted high because of his negatives, but his positives overcame. Duke and K had as much to do with that as anything/anyone. Confusing quote. How did Boozer develop at dook to become an NBA player?

What did he improve upon in his 3 years under K & with Wojo as his big man coach?

As far as I am concerned, he was pretty much the same player as a junior that we saw as a freshman.

Can you pinpoint anything to his game that improved dramatically?

I'm honestly curious.

oe

[JMarkJohns]

The intent of the quote was to say that by him just going to Duke wasnt enough for his draft status to overcome the perceived negatives, but that the success he's had is largely based on the skills he learned/honed while at Duke, therefore the school and its coach should receive some credit.

[TopCat]

I moved this thread. The AR forum seems like the appropriate place for this one...

[Casanova]

Actually, looking at the NBA in an NBA light, Duke made a 2nd-round steal and top-10 player from the draft out of an undersized (6-8) and unathletic big with quationable defensive ability and questioned desire.

Duke wasn't enough to get him drafted high because of his negatives, but his positives overcame. Duke and K had as much to do with that as anything/anyone.

Boozer should have went top-20 and entered with top-10 skill.

great points!

Now, Oe, aka wolfman Jr. you're forgetting that Carlos is the guy that got cut from international comp. in the summer of 2000. The rep on him was desire, laziness and he was a tad bit overweight also.

oe writes---"Can you pinpoint anything to his game that improved dramatically"


Carlos soph to junior numbers improved from 13.3 to 18.2 ppg and 6.5 to 8.7 rebounds and the guy became an All-American. He also dramatically improved his work ethic and his toughness as a ball player.(This is obviously considered digression in Chapel Hill especially in comparison to a mickey D aa stud like Kris Lang for example who played the same time Boozer did, now talk about a player remaining the same for his career that's Lang, and please don't give me the injury excuse as Carlos broke his foot TWICE while at Duke) Everybody was surprised that he went as low as he did, but he turned out being quite a steal.

[Ben Hansen]

Shelden will win the POY award way before Redick ever would because he's not one dimensional and he can dominate in several areas of the game, particularly defensively. Redick, meanwhile, couldn't guard this sentence.

[beardownbaby]

Cas - Boozer didn't improve that much at all while at dook. ...

(Boozer) has made himself a pretty good NBA career, but most of that improvement & development came in college.
These two statements are from the same post. Quite the contradictory stance, if I've ever seen one.

oe, you later wrote, "How did Boozer develop at dook to become an NBA player?"

Shouldn't you already know, since you're the one saying that his NBA talents were developed at Duke?

If you're gonna downtalk a guy's success at your rival school, at least be smart enough to not say two sentences later that the guy was successful at your rival school.

[oebabyblue]

beardown - I should edit. I meant to say that most of his NBA talents were developed in the association. My bad.

oe

[JMarkJohns]

^ that's not true at all... He was All-rookie second team, behind Amare Stoudemire and Yao Ming for first team honors. He was a steal from his first game in the League.

[Indywildcatfan]

beardown - I should edit. I meant to say that most of his NBA talents were developed in the association. My bad.

oe


Because I really can't focus on anything you ever write, I will go ahead and forgive you on this one.

You just have to share where you pull this stuff from. AHHHH