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T-Bone
12-10-2005, 05:36 PM
75-71. I mean, I knew ASSU was bad but that loss is unprecedented in my book. I tried to look up what conference UVSC was in but they're not even in one. In the independent standings, they're right behind Texas A&M Corpus Christi and right above North Dakota State though.:lol:

smashmode
12-10-2005, 05:50 PM
Former Husky Ben Devoe Leads Utah valley state with 21 :)

BlueMikey
12-10-2005, 07:11 PM
If they are independent, that means they likely just joined Division I. Ouch.

Titan
12-10-2005, 08:59 PM
It was Utah Valley COMMUNITY COLLEGE until a few years ago! I don't think we need to worry about anymore ridiculous asu smack. (right, dw99?)

ZonaDefender1
12-10-2005, 09:24 PM
Lets see Tempe Normal being down the road from U of A set the program back 10 years, Diogu leaving set them back 20 years, This lost sets them back 30 years,,, DAMNNNNN!!! we should be clear of scumdevil b-ball smack for about a century or until they win a national title well im not sweating that i should be dead and buried by then so will my grandkids.

devilswin99
12-11-2005, 04:29 AM
Titan,

Rob Evans is a first class guy and a first class loser. I do not defend that joke of a team! I was aganist his hiring 7 years ago, and I still stand by it today. Evans to us is like Mackovic to you guys, except Evans isn't such a jerk, he just loses like Mack did. The only good thing to come out of this is if Lisa Love wasn't looking before, her a$$ better be on a plane now trying to find our new head coach. I want Bob Huggins as coach, but Crow will never go for it.

Devilswin99

Josh Gershon
12-11-2005, 04:35 AM
If ASU is smart, its next coach was in Tucson on Saturday.

UA Direct
12-11-2005, 04:45 AM
It was Utah Valley COMMUNITY COLLEGE until a few years ago! I don't think we need to worry about anymore ridiculous asu smack. (right, dw99?)

They were only Utah Valley for about 12 years...

Before that, I think they were known as Stevens-Henegers, and didn't even field sports teams.

BlueMikey
12-11-2005, 11:17 AM
If Randy Bennett is smart, ASU's next coach was not in Tucson on Saturday.

ZonaDefender1
12-11-2005, 11:50 AM
Titan,

Rob Evans is a first class guy and a first class loser. I do not defend that joke of a team! I was aganist his hiring 7 years ago, and I still stand by it today. Evans to us is like Mackovic to you guys, except Evans isn't such a jerk, he just loses like Mack did. The only good thing to come out of this is if Lisa Love wasn't looking before, her a$$ better be on a plane now trying to find our new head coach. I want Bob Huggins as coach, but Crow will never go for it.

Devilswin99

You maybe right but here is the thing no matter who the coach at ASU is he still will have the same problems Evans does, simply put who would want to go there when a proven national powerhouse is 99 miles to the south. lute had a leg up because when he first got here, he kinda had some of that snowden success looming in the valley, so u of a had a lukewarm success record. Lute Olson was the battery. When i look at your basketball team, ill be honest i see a high school team in college uniforms. there are some JC schools out there that would probrably walk the dog on you. your athletes are sub par to horrible, and i couldnt see any established coach coming down here(Bob Huggins) to rebuild that disaster or better yet to be u of a's *****.

Auercat
12-11-2005, 12:21 PM
Ask Chris Low, Tim Pierce or Tanner Shell if Rob Evans is a first class guy. ;)

Bearing Down on The St Evans Cr@p From Many ASU Fans Getting Old. Fact of The Matter Is That He's A Lousy Coach And Not Quite The Great Guy That ASU Fans Would Like To Believe He Is :rolleyes:

Auercat

devilswin99
12-11-2005, 12:48 PM
Auercat,

I don't really care then if he's a great guy. I just want to put Evans and his whole crew on a bus to Sun City to coach the Galloping Grannies basketball team. Mabye he can make them winners. As for the argument that no coach will come to ASU because U of A is good is total crap. Duke and North Carolina seem to do well given the proxmity of their schools. ASU does not have the tradition of either of these programs, but I think we can get a Lorenzo Romar type who just needs the keys, and run with it. Hey, anything is better than this!

Devilswin99

ASUHATER!
12-11-2005, 12:53 PM
i just remember hearing last night on the arizona sports report that the last teams that utah valley st faced in arizona in the past few years were glendale cc and grand canyon university.

wow.

ZonaDefender1
12-11-2005, 03:43 PM
Auercat,

I don't really care then if he's a great guy. I just want to put Evans and his whole crew on a bus to Sun City to coach the Galloping Grannies basketball team. Mabye he can make them winners. As for the argument that no coach will come to ASU because U of A is good is total crap. Duke and North Carolina seem to do well given the proxmity of their schools. ASU does not have the tradition of either of these programs, but I think we can get a Lorenzo Romar type who just needs the keys, and run with it. Hey, anything is better than this!

Devilswin99

you just said it duke and nc are storied programs, asu is far from it, no established coach would take a chance on going to asu because unlike your football team they are not recognizable with winning or with being succesful. Whoever the Coach is going to be knows that he comes to ASU he HAS TO COMPETE WITH LUTE OLSEN in the recruiting great talent. If i am a high school kid from Phoenix or Tucson i would go to "The House Salim destroyed" AKA Wells Fargo arena and be kinda impressed but then i would take a recruiting trip to McKale and see a National title banner and Pac Ten championship banners tournament appereances, a packed house, national respect and exposure, great players who came through there, the allure and the tradition of Arizona Basketball thats a no brainer who i would choose. Lorenzo Romar really is only recruiting againist Oregon, He can get the personnel. So ASU will always be an obscure b-ball program.

devilswin99
12-11-2005, 04:05 PM
Zonadefender,

First of all, how long is Lute going to be there? He's not a 45 year old guy anymore, and depending how this season goes, mabye he will want to get a chance to do other things besides basketball.

As far as the recruiting goes, what young coach would not want the challenge? It's not like we are in Yuma or anything, there is enough talent in the west for D1 schools. Plus with all of your success, there is also a waiting list for playing time, so if you want all the minutes and press you can handle (Ike D) than ASU would be a good fit. It all depends on the person that you bring in. Look at North Carolina with Matt Doughty. Storied program, but had mixed results. Your name alone does not guarantee success (UCLA, Steve Lavin) so Arizona is far from untouchable!

Devilswin99

ASUHATER!
12-11-2005, 04:10 PM
Zonadefender,

First of all, how long is Lute going to be there? He's not a 45 year old guy anymore, and depending how this season goes, mabye he will want to get a chance to do other things besides basketball.

As far as the recruiting goes, what young coach would not want the challenge? It's not like we are in Yuma or anything, there is enough talent in the west for D1 schools. Plus with all of your success, there is also a waiting list for playing time, so if you want all the minutes and press you can handle (Ike D) than ASU would be a good fit. It all depends on the person that you bring in. Look at North Carolina with Pete Doughty. Storied program, but had mixed results. Your name alone does not guarantee success (UCLA, Steve Lavin) so Arizona is far from untouchable!

Devilswin99

lol, thats funny. lute is staying as long as he possibly can, unless he dies from some strange disease suddenly. sure asu would be a fun project for some fun young coach...but seriously who would ever really want to take that job?

devilswin99
12-11-2005, 04:13 PM
ASUHATER,

Why do players go up to Pullman and play for Washington State? They want to play in the PAC-10. ASU will be a good job, but with a ton of work to do.

Devilswin99

P.S. If I were Lute, I would rather be enjoying all those great golf courses in Tucson, but mabye he has different thoughts!

ASUHATER!
12-11-2005, 04:16 PM
P.S. If I were Lute, I would rather be enjoying all those great golf courses in Tucson, but mabye he has different thoughts!

most dumb post of the year. lute coaches because he loves to coach. all that statement says is that you hope he retires asap. not gonna happen bud.

ZonaDefender1
12-11-2005, 04:33 PM
Zonadefender,

First of all, how long is Lute going to be there? He's not a 45 year old guy anymore, and depending how this season goes, mabye he will want to get a chance to do other things besides basketball.

As far as the recruiting goes, what young coach would not want the challenge? It's not like we are in Yuma or anything, there is enough talent in the west for D1 schools. Plus with all of your success, there is also a waiting list for playing time, so if you want all the minutes and press you can handle (Ike D) than ASU would be a good fit. It all depends on the person that you bring in. Look at North Carolina with Matt Doughty. Storied program, but had mixed results. Your name alone does not guarantee success (UCLA, Steve Lavin) so Arizona is far from untouchable!

Devilswin99

Never said we were untouchable as a matter of fact when lute does retire ill bet the farm we will be able to get whatever coach that is out there, thats fine ASU is in a metropolis BUT that sometimes does not peak recruits intrerest. The U of A has a great basketball family that we can go to, if and when lute retires. plus you guys may be able to get a decent b-ball player but never the cream of the crop. there is a problem when players the caliber of Mike Bibby, channing frye and even st mary's guard jerryd bayless, would never even consider asu to attend its always U of A or some other school 1000's of miles away. We may struggle when lute retires but we will never be in the port a potty with ASU. because the name and the legacy of the program will always rebound. even the memory of lute olsen would scare decent coaches away from asu, hell look at the basketball coaching history of your school that tells the story.

devilswin99
12-11-2005, 04:33 PM
ASUHATER,

If Lute retires or not, the ASU job is at least a 4 year rebuilding project, and by that time, I believe Lute will be long gone. Have a great weekend, and don't forget the Insight Bowl is a little over two weeks away! Football sure is a relief from BB.

Devilswin99

devilswin99
12-11-2005, 04:37 PM
ZonaDefender,

What was Arizona before Lute. A truck stop in the desert. ASU has the pieces in place, but no one that could market the program correctly. If you are depending on the history of the program to ensure ongoing success, look at UMASS. Did they go to a few final four's and have alot of success. Where are they now?

Devilswin99

kanobi
12-11-2005, 04:40 PM
I could see the devils picking up steve lavin.

ZonaDefender1
12-11-2005, 05:05 PM
ZonaDefender,

What was Arizona before Lute. A truck stop in the desert. ASU has the pieces in place, but no one that could market the program correctly. If you are depending on the history of the program to ensure ongoing success, look at UMASS. Did they go to a few final four's and have alot of success. Where are they now?

Devilswin99

How fast you are forgetting we had success with fred snowden and even pop mckale, Umass was building for the next season never for the long hall PLUS they are not even in the same league as U of A. there are so many schools up there in the NE that they stopped recruiting as west as Illinois and as south as north carolina, U of A globally recruits we have over 20 years of excellence our name is stamped in basketball greatness with consitency. UNLV won a national title does not make them a great program it makes them a program that had great players but when Jerry T left it became a mid major again, because Jerry T never prepared for 6 years from now he recruited junior colleges looking for guys who just wanted the fast track to the NBA. UCLA hasnt been dominant since HARRICK AND JOHN WOODEN. but every year they are a tournament threat, great programs are stamped because they keep a fresh supply of new talent. ASU no matter who the coach is will never do that or will be able too, Ike left your program because he was tired of losing every year staying home for the tournament every year he knew there was NO future at ASU, simple fact ASU could not compete and bring in the supporting cast he needed to win. If diogu was a wildcat he woulda stayed four year and would have been easily the first pick of the draft this coming year.