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MrBug708
04-26-2006, 09:26 PM
...sexual assualt is the charge

ByJoveByJingle
04-26-2006, 09:31 PM
Was the victim a man or a woman?

Yikes. It's like the fall of freakin' Rome over there . . . :eek:

ASUHATER!
04-26-2006, 09:31 PM
welllll, just means ua has to step in and take the reins...

ps-i can't find anything about it on all the normal websites. ??

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 09:37 PM
Was the victim a man or a woman?
My first thought as well.

Auercat
04-26-2006, 09:37 PM
OMFG. The dynasty is crumbling even quicker than I thought it would. Yikes!

Bearing Down on SC Being Ripe For The Picking

Auercat

ASUHATER!
04-26-2006, 09:38 PM
links bug? i cant find it anywhere on espn, cbssportsline, yahoo, usc's website...

MrBug708
04-26-2006, 09:39 PM
Local News

F Duke
04-26-2006, 09:40 PM
www.nbc4.tv/news/9026769/detail.html

Evidently he was popped last week for damaging a car.

Auercat
04-26-2006, 09:40 PM
Confirmed. Just got off the phone with a friend and it's true.

Bearing Down on Garrett Green Being Even A Bigger Recruit Than USC Ever Imagined

Auercat

ByJoveByJingle
04-26-2006, 09:45 PM
www.nbc4.tv/news/9026769/detail.html

Evidently he was popped last week for damaging a car.
And by "popped" you mean . . . ? :lol:

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 09:46 PM
Garrett Green is a solid prospect....at Safety.

F Duke
04-26-2006, 09:47 PM
LOL. Sorry, I meant arrested. There was a couple of posts on the USC Scout board that said he was arrested with Cushing last week for vandalizing Cushing girlfriends car. Not sure if thats true or not but it sounds like breaking a windshield is the least of this kid's worries.

Gronk4Heisman
04-26-2006, 09:49 PM
Apparently they don't own the police as much as some players think they do.

ZONACAT
04-26-2006, 09:50 PM
LOL. Sorry, I meant arrested. There was a couple of posts on the USC Scout board that said he was arrested with Cushing last week for vandalizing Cushing girlfriends car. Not sure if thats true or not but it sounds like breaking a windshield is the least of this kid's worries.

Classy kids. He should be booted from USC for sexual assault, but he won't.

Auercat
04-26-2006, 09:53 PM
Garrett Green is a solid prospect....at Safety.

You're right on that one DI :(

Bearing Down on An Injured Booty And Not Much Else At QB For SC. Yikes!

Auercat

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 09:57 PM
Classy kids. He should be booted from USC for sexual assault, but he won't.
That's not fair, ZC...I'm sure Carroll will make him sit out for the first fifteen minutes of practice; maybe make him run two laps around the field or something. Who are you to judge Caligula...errr....Carroll like that?

Auercat
04-26-2006, 10:00 PM
That's not fair, ZC...I'm sure Carroll will make him sit out for the first fifteen minutes of practice; maybe make him run two laps around the field or something. Who are you to judge Caligula...errr....Carroll like that?

Now be fair TD. Pete did excuse Winston Justice for an entire season for his charges (knowing he had sick O-Line depth). That being said, I would not expect to see Sanchez in a USC uni until this sorts out further. Carroll might not have any say in the matter.

Bearing Down on Being Disappointed If There's A Slap on The Wrist Here. Sanchez Should Be Witheld Until The Record Is Set Straight (Whichever Way That Might Be)

Auercat

ByJoveByJingle
04-26-2006, 10:01 PM
That's not fair, ZC...I'm sure Carroll will make him sit out for the first fifteen minutes of practice; maybe make him run two laps around the field or something. Who are you to judge Caligula...errr....Carroll like that?
Nero might be another analogy . . . :)

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 10:04 PM
Now be fair TD. Pete did excuse Winston Justice for an entire season for his charges (knowing he had sick O-Line depth). That being said, I would not expect to see Sanchez in a USC uni until this sorts out further. Carroll might not have any say in the matter.

Bearing Down on Being Disappointed If There's A Slap on The Wrist Here. Sanchez Should Be Witheld Until The Record Is Set Straight (Whichever Way That Might Be)

Auercat
Justice only got arrested like...three times on completely different charges in completely different cities before Carroll did anything. You know the other stories of his heavy-handed discipline.:rolleyes:

HermosaCat
04-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Come on now boys and girls, this will be swept right under the carpet by Friday...who are we kidding?
What I am curious about, during the Army All-Star game, he came across as a bible banger w/ the Praise God stuff during the interview....Hypocrite!

If the NCAA is NOW not involved w/ this program, they better just start filming another movie. Problem is, the 110 moves so slow, you would survive getting hit lying in the street.

ByJoveByJingle
04-26-2006, 10:08 PM
What I am curious about, during the Army All-Star game, he came across as a bible banger w/ the Praise God stuff during the interview....Hypocrite!
I saw that interview. He came across as some kind of banger . . . I'm just not sure what kind. :)

HiCat
04-26-2006, 10:10 PM
...sexual assualt is the charge


Do you know the facts in this complaint? Any information about the complainant? Were there injuries? etc..

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 10:13 PM
"Mark Sanchez was arrested at his Cardinal Gardens apartment Wednesday afternoon on suspicion of sexual assault. The incident took place earlier in the day and it involved another USC student who later reported it to police. The University is expected to issue a statement later tonight."

Winger
04-26-2006, 10:15 PM
Bearing down on the day USC fans are screaming for the heads of Wildcat football players, no negativity intended there, I just look forward to that day.

ByJoveByJingle
04-26-2006, 10:25 PM
Huh. Who knew?


http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1882/marksanchezbellycopy9gx.jpg

HermosaCat
04-26-2006, 10:25 PM
Winger, did you fall on your head today? I NEVER want that day to come regardless of record. Do you realize that the SC Spin machine is going to drag this poor girl through the ringer? For what? Getting asaulted? F-That!
Bad post dude!

HiCat
04-26-2006, 10:30 PM
USC QB Sanchez Arrested For Alleged Sexual Assault
By Jill Leovy and Gary Klein, Times Staff Writer
7:07 PM PDT, April 26, 2006


Mark Sanchez, a redshirt freshman battling to become USC's starting quarterback, was arrested in the 4100 block of McClintock just north of the campus at about 4 p.m. today after a female USC student reported to police that she had been sexually assaulted by Sanchez earlier in the day, said Officer Jason Lee, an LAPD spokesman.

LAPD's elite robbery-homicide division is investigating the case. Sanchez, 19, has been booked on suspicion of sexual assault, and is in custody in the jail at LAPD's Parker Center, in downtown Los Angeles. He has not been charged, Lee said.


USC Coach Pete Carroll, who was out of town recruiting, said early this evening that he was aware of Sanchez's arrest and that the Trojan football program would cooperate fully with the LAPD.

Sanchez took most of the snaps in USC's recently completed spring practice after John David Booty, the quarterback he is in competition with for the starting job next season, was injured.

He was highly sought and was widely considered among the nation's best players at his position after starring for championship football and basketball teams at Mission Viejo High.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-uscfb27apr27,0,2548064.story?coll=la-home-headlines

NewportCat
04-26-2006, 10:44 PM
I am telling everyone that Arizona WILL beat USC next year. The stars are aligning.

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 10:48 PM
I am telling everyone that Arizona WILL beat USC next year. The stars are aligning.
You think Arizona is going to win every game....I don't think most people listen to your predictions anymore, Bonney...err...buddy.

ASUHATER!
04-26-2006, 10:53 PM
he thinks arizona will win every game next year because next year is the first year since 98 that arizona will have the ability to, they certainly won't, but we have the ability to.

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 10:57 PM
He's thought Arizona's going to win every game since I've been on this website.

ASUHATER!
04-26-2006, 10:58 PM
which is since june 2005, right? ;)

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 10:59 PM
Rep for you...Good point, man.

HermosaCat
04-26-2006, 11:02 PM
TD:
Seriously, when is the community going to say enough? This freakin team has been getting away w/ murder (see OJ) for the last 3-4 years!
I can honestly say that every off season there is something that "suddenly" goes astray and then away!
Granted, not every program in the country is clean, and does not have it's share of issues, (see Miami, FSU, OSU, Scummies), but SC seems to have one hell of a legal team.....ENOUGH ALREADY!

TucsonDon
04-26-2006, 11:18 PM
The legal team consists of one Carmen Trutanich, which is a whole other issue you can investigate for yourself if you'd like. Nothing much Kosher going on down there, and there have been a lot incidents over the past couple of years....It starts from the top down...I mean, the guy in charge should start recruiting kids with higher moral standards, but that wouldn't seem likely considering that the kids he's bringing in have been winning a lot.

bhanson
04-26-2006, 11:36 PM
Sanchez is Dirty? :devil:

And please, just watching CourtTV last night about a guy freed after 10 years in prison for a rape he didn't commit, and another story out today about a guy freed after 18 years, and along with all the late video taped truths about rape, and with the drunk bruised semen containing stripper Duke LAX rape, I now suspect any alleged rape.

Even though it happens every day sadly some rapes really aren't rapes. Besides Sanchez is still innocent until proven guilty...

Especially those who "later" report it to police.

ByJoveByJingle
04-26-2006, 11:39 PM
Especially those who "later" report it to police.
According to the article, the girl accused him of raping her that morning and he was arrested in the afternoon. Doesn't look good . . .

ZONACAT
04-26-2006, 11:43 PM
According to the article, the girl accused him of raping her that morning and he was arrested in the afternoon. Doesn't look good . . .

Which is why I think this one is legit.

bhanson
04-26-2006, 11:50 PM
Sounds like they expected Sanchez to be a flight risk. Helicopters?


USCFootball.com


Redshirt Freshman USC quarterback Mark Sanchez was arrested and charged with sexual assault tonight according to the LAPD.

The arrest occured in front of a myriad of police cars and helicopters circling the Cardinal Gardens apartment complex.

A female USC student reported that Sanchez assaulted her earlier Wednesday.

Police entered the apartment shared by Sanchez and freshman teammate linebacker Brian Cushing. Both were led from their apartment in handcuffs and taken to a waiting squad car.

Cushing was soon released as the police sorted out the accused.

At this point Cushing has not been formally questioned by the LAPD.

Cushing and Sanchez have been roomates for at least a year.

Mark Sanchez was rated as the nation's top high school quaterback in 2004, throwing for 1,746 yards and 16 touchdowns his senior year at Mission Viejo.

Morgan
04-26-2006, 11:58 PM
should be interesting. USC probably wants to reopen the Lebron Clausen sweepstakes right about now.

OsideCat
04-27-2006, 12:05 AM
I was sitting in a SC spring practice meeting last year, and the director of football operations passes a lamenated card to each player that was supposed to be carried with them at all times. It was contact names, and phone#'s (Carrol, coaches etc) The first name on the list was a number for legal counsel. They were instructed to call numbers from the top down if anything went wrong.

At the time, I laughed because it reminded me of the scene in Pulp Fiction when Samuel, and Travolta had to call a man who fixes thing. Sanchez obviously didn't have his card on him. I should have asked Reggie, if his had a realtors number on it.

Jason Scheer
04-27-2006, 12:09 AM
This is so Herschel Dennis

HermosaCat
04-27-2006, 12:23 AM
Look, if he is truly innocent, enough said, but as a father, the Mo-Fo is a dead man!

MrBug708
04-27-2006, 12:26 AM
Im guesing she went to the LAPD as opposed to the Campus police

Ryan Stevens
04-27-2006, 12:26 AM
I met Sanchez and talked with him quite a bit two weeks ago at the Nike Camp and he was one of the nicest guys I have ever met. He was real cool and laidback to everyone (and threw and unreal ball). This really upsets me, hopefully there is an explanation and if not, USC is in for some serious trouble. Guess you cant judge a book by its cover.

EagleCat57
04-27-2006, 12:45 AM
I have also meet Mark many time he is a real nice young man, I hope that these allegation are not true for his sake and his parents. Arizona fans should be really happy because the 2005 Elite 11 QB class that featured Sanchez and Tuitama we got Tui, and all he does is watch film in coach Canales office.

LuteLoyalist
04-27-2006, 01:18 AM
Guess you cant judge a book by its cover.

That's exactly what pretty much everyone in this thread is doing, save Merkin. Castrating Sanchez based on the headlines of a "story". Oh, but I forgot, he was arrested in the afternoon - so he must be guilty.

If he is indeed guilty, I hope he frys. But I am going to wait until this all plays out. Being accused and being guilty are two different things entirely.

Anyone remember a guy named Khalid Reeves?

ByJoveByJingle
04-27-2006, 01:31 AM
Does it matter what we think? Is it going to effect his case? If not, then what difference does it make?

What do you think the percentage is of people being accused of rape, actually being guilty of raping? Do you think it's a low number?

Does bringing up the extraordinary cases make them typical?

My take?

The odds that he did it? 75%

The odds that the case will make it to court? 50%

The odds that he will be convicted? 25%

Those odds have nothing to do about what I know about this case (almost nothing) . . . and everything to do with what I know about the ridiculously exhaustive history of high-profile/athlete rape cases.

LuteLoyalist
04-27-2006, 01:52 AM
Nothing anyone posts on this board means anything. Its opinions of anonymous people on subjects over which we all have NO influence. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, though, and to post it.

A few questions for you...

1. Do you think the Duke Lacrosse rape accusation is legit? Should the coach have lost his job?

2. Do you think there are more "bogus" accusations of rape against "celebrity public figures" or your rank and file citizen?

I am not declaring Sanchez innocent. I am simply choosing to refrain from skewering him until something more than an accusation is proven.

Jason Scheer
04-27-2006, 02:21 AM
Supposedly he will spend the night in jail on $200,000 bail

F Duke
04-27-2006, 02:38 AM
LA news said it happened shortly after midnight at a club.

ByJoveByJingle
04-27-2006, 02:53 AM
Nothing anyone posts on this board means anything. Its opinions of anonymous people on subjects over which we all have NO influence. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, though, and to post it.

A few questions for you...

1. Do you think the Duke Lacrosse rape accusation is legit? Should the coach have lost his job?

2. Do you think there are more "bogus" accusations of rape against "celebrity public figures" or your rank and file citizen?

I am not declaring Sanchez innocent. I am simply choosing to refrain from skewering him until something more than an accusation is proven.

1. I don't know. I haven't been following it that closely. There seems to be conflicting evidence, which means it probably should go to trial and be decided upon by a jury. I also don't know if the coach should have lost his job--it comes down to institutional control. I'm assuming the behavior that led to this situation isn't an isolated incident . . . and if it isn't, the coach does probably bear some responsibility for not knowing about it (if he didn't) or not acting on the information, if he did know.

2. No, I don't think there are more bogus accusations against celebrity figures. I think there are a lot of reasons why a woman might file a bogus case. The added celebrity factor (money grab?) is probably counteracted by the understanding that very little ever goes unnoticed under spotlight of public scrutiny these days. In many ways, I imagine that victims of celebrities would be less likely to file charges for the fear of the public spotlight (which is the reason for my earlier numbers).

My gut tells me something not good is up here. I'm gonna go with that until something contradicts my instincts. Obviously I'm not a jurist and I don't have to worry about such niceties as innocent until proven guilty (which is an absurd phrase, anyway).

kanobi
04-27-2006, 03:00 AM
They don't call it a dirty sanchez for nothing!:eek:

Jason Scheer
04-27-2006, 03:35 AM
USC's Sanchez Arrested by LAPD
Redshirt freshman quarterback is held on suspicion of sexual assault after being accused by a female student at the school.
By Gary Klein and Jill Leovy, Times Staff Writers
April 27, 2006


USC quarterback Mark Sanchez, who was battling to become the Trojans' starter, was arrested Wednesday on suspicion of sexual assault.

Los Angeles Police Department officers took the 19-year-old redshirt freshman into custody about 4 p.m., after a female USC student told police she had been sexually assaulted by Sanchez in the early morning. Sanchez, from Mission Viejo, was arrested at the Cardinal Gardens apartment complex at 3131 McClintock Ave.

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Police would not say where the alleged assault occurred.

The security system at a nearby club Sanchez visited late Tuesday night shows him leaving at 12:59 a.m. Wednesday.

"He left by himself," a club employee said. "There was no girl with him."

Sanchez was taken to LAPD's Parker Center in downtown Los Angeles. As of late Wednesday, his bail had been set at $200,000, according to Officer Jason Lee of the LAPD. Lee said Sanchez would be "booked very soon."

Police said the woman was not hospitalized.

USC Coach Pete Carroll was out of town on a recruiting trip but said he was aware of Sanchez's arrest.

"We're just hearing about this," Carroll said in a statement released by the university Wednesday evening. "We'll cooperate fully and do whatever we can to assist. At this point, this is being handled by the university's student affairs office and we'll follow along with whatever action the university takes."

Michael L. Jackson, USC's vice president of student affairs, said that Sanchez would be put on "interim suspension" while the case was pending, meaning that the athlete cannot attend class or participate in other student activities until the university reviews the situation further.

"We need to understand better what's going on before we can make a determination of anything," Jackson said.

"We take these things very seriously. … We don't know the facts, but the nature of the allegations are serious."

Spring semester classes conclude Friday and final exams are May 3-10. USC officials said it was too early to determine whether Sanchez's eligibility for the 2006 season, which begins Sept. 2 at Arkansas, would be jeopardized.

Witnesses to the arrest said the area just north of campus was swarming with police and campus safety officers as Sanchez and sophomore linebacker Brian Cushing were led away from Building E in the sprawling complex.

Cushing was released at the scene.

USC students Matthew Menjou and Altman Tsang, roommates who live in a building adjacent to where Sanchez was taken into custody, said Sanchez happened upon them in a parking lot behind the apartment buildings about 1:30 a.m.

Menjou, from Torrance, said he and Tsang, who is from Centerville, Va., said they had returned from getting something to eat when the car they were in ran out of gas just as they prepared to park.

Menjou said Sanchez, whom he recognized from photos as a football player who was supposed to be "the next Matt Leinart," showed up and offered to help them push the car into a space.

Menjou said Sanchez was loud and appeared as if he had been drinking alcohol.

According to an employee of the 901 Club on Figueroa Street, club security cameras show Sanchez arrived at the bar Tuesday night at 11:21, using a fake Arizona ID that showed his name as Jordan Traver Uttal.

"I saw him and he was stoned-faced sober when he came in," said the employee, who asked not to be identified by name.



The club, known by USC students as "The 9-0," is about a 10-minute walk from Cardinal Gardens.

Sanchez is the second USC player to be arrested on suspicion of sexual assault in the last 13 months.

In March 2005, cornerback Eric Wright was booked on suspicion of rape after an alleged incident at the complex, but he was never charged. Wright eventually transferred to Nevada Las Vegas.

In August 2004, the LAPD launched a sexual assault investigation that involved Trojan football players after an alleged incident occurred at the same complex. No arrests were made.

Sanchez, who is listed at 6 feet 4 and 215 pounds, took most of the snaps in the Trojans' recently completed spring practice after junior John David Booty suffered a back injury that required surgery.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sanchez27apr27,1,5622261.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Jason Scheer
04-27-2006, 03:37 AM
Trojans' Sanchez is arrested
BY SCOTT WOLF, Staff Writer



USC quarterback Mark Sanchez was arrested for sexual assault Wednesday afternoon involving an alleged incident with a freshman female student.

Sanchez, 19, was arrested at the Cardinal Gardens apartment complex, across the street from the USC campus. He remained at Parker Center in downtown Los Angeles on Wednesday night. No bail was set, but sources said it was expected to be $100,000.

Police took DNA and hair samples from Sanchez, according to sources. Witnesses said Sanchez went to an off-campus bar Tuesday night and was dropped off around 1:30 a.m. at Cardinal Gardens, where he met the alleged victim, who also lives in the complex.

Witnesses also said Sanchez appeared to be drunk. Sanchez's roommate, linebacker Brian Cushing, was initially arrested by police but later released. Sources said Cushing was asleep when the alleged incident occurred.

"The investigation is in the preliminary stages," said Los Angeles police officer April Harding.

USC placed Sanchez on "interim suspension" following his arrest, although officials were unsure if that meant he would take final exams, which begin next week.

USC coach Pete Carroll was in San Diego recruiting when he was told about the arrest and released a statement.

"We're just learning about this," Carroll said. "We'll cooperate fully and do whatever we can to assist. At this point, this is being handled by the university's student affairs office and we'll follow along with whatever action the university takes."

Ironically, Sanchez attended a workshop Tuesday night at Heritage Hall for athletes on rape awareness.

This is the third incident in the past


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two years involving a USC football player. Tailback Hershel Dennis was the subject of a sexual-assault investigation in 2004 but never charged. Cornerback Eric Wright was charged with sexual assault last year but the district attorney's office dropped the charges.

All of the incidents took place at Cardinal Gardens, where freshman football players usually live. Aside from the alleged sexual-assault incident, Sanchez was also under age for being in the bar Tuesday night.

This is not the first incident involving Sanchez this semester. Last month, campus security detained him after he allegedly broke a window at a fraternity party but did not make any arrests.

TucsonDon
04-27-2006, 07:48 AM
Sounds like she went into his place voluntarily which will potentially weaken the case.

Quotes from ABC news in Los Angeles:

Female USC student: I'm not suprised because the football players get away with anything here. They are so looked up to that they can do anything they want.

Female USC student: Yeah, it is really scary because not only do we have to be afraid of the people in the area that are not students but we also have to worry about the other students doing something like this.

Officially Miami all over again. I really hope this just goes away because it isn't true, but I fear that it may not, and just watching this football team play every Saturday makes me sick, and not just because I'm a UCLA fan. The showboating and the taunting is a constant staple on USC's team at this point, and its because of the same reason Carroll was run out of town in New England...he can't control his players, or more likely, he doesn't want to. He's soft on them, he wants them to like him too much, he brings people like Snoop around the program (just as Luthur Campbell was associated with Miami in the late 80's) just because he thinks that will please everyone around...well guess what? He's lying in the bed he made for himself with the people he recruited to come in and be the way they are. Sincerely wish that these allegations would go away but if they don't, I hope its a wake-up call to the 'SC community, and from what I've been reading today, perhaps it will be.

Winger
04-27-2006, 09:55 AM
Winger, did you fall on your head today? I NEVER want that day to come regardless of record. Do you realize that the SC Spin machine is going to drag this poor girl through the ringer? For what? Getting asaulted? F-That!
Bad post dude!

Settle down.

I was merely stating that I would enjoy the day we were such a good program that silly people on other college football boards openly rooted for our players to get hurt, in trouble, or leave for the draft. An indirect measure of respect and jealousy is all I was getting at.

If you think that I think it is cool to assault a girl, and got that from reading my post, you need to get a grip, back away from the computer, leave your house and go surfing to clear your head.

illcat
04-27-2006, 09:57 AM
Sounds like she went into his place voluntarily which will potentially weaken the case.

WHAT KIND OF A STATEMENT IS THAT? OOOPS SHE WENT INTO HIS ROOM THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS SHE WANTED TO BE RAPED. WHAT KIND OF NEANDERTHAL THINKING IS THAT?

SunDevilScott
04-27-2006, 09:58 AM
Was the victim a man or a woman?

Yikes. It's like the fall of freakin' Rome over there . . . :eek:

A fark I made a while ago about Sanchez....

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/sundevilscott/Farks/Sanchezbill.gif

illcat
04-27-2006, 10:01 AM
Any other poor schmuck would fry. But since he plays for USC he'll get a free pass. My guess is since he is only a freshman and skates on this one, before he graduates his name shows up as a suspect on another booking sheet.

8daysdazed
04-27-2006, 10:11 AM
I don't think USC is going to sweep this one under the rug. No way is Sanchez going to part of the team until this is cleared up. Duke suspended both players and will likely keep them suspended until their day in court. How would USC look compared to Duke if they let Sanchez back on the team prematurely.

bhanson
04-27-2006, 11:01 AM
WHAT KIND OF A STATEMENT IS THAT? OOOPS SHE WENT INTO HIS ROOM THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS SHE WANTED TO BE RAPED. WHAT KIND OF NEANDERTHAL THINKING IS THAT?

I didn't take it that way. More like if he claims "consensual sex" and she claims "rape" the burden of proof will just that much harder. We don't know the physical evidence, if any. Does Sanchez have scratches on his face? Is there his DNA under her fingernails? Was there any evidence of a roofie (sp?) in her bloodstream? If the only evidence was they had sex without any other physical evidence, you can't possibly convict.

Sanchez: It was consensual
Accuser: It was rape

How can that be a conviction without reasonable doubt?

NewportCat
04-27-2006, 11:04 AM
TucsonDon, oh it is fun to say this

SCOREBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

55-14!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NewportCat
04-27-2006, 11:08 AM
Great no wonder why no charges will be pressed, Michael Jackson is handling the investigations

"Michael L. Jackson, USC's vice president of student affairs, said that Sanchez would be put on "interim suspension" while the case was pending, meaning that the athlete cannot attend class or participate in other student activities until the university reviews the situation further.

"We need to understand better what's going on before we can make a determination of anything," Jackson said.

"We take these things very seriously. … We don't know the facts, but the nature of the allegations are serious."

BigO
04-27-2006, 11:10 AM
Been to the 9-Oh before. Great place for drinks!

bhanson
04-27-2006, 11:11 AM
the athlete cannot attend class

Glad to see the accused gets no rights whatsever. :mad: So any woman can accuse any guy of rape, and without any due process cannot attend classes? Even if it comes out as a disgruntled girlfriend, Sanchez will forever be known as a rapist.

Not saying if he is guilty he shouldn't pay, he should just like any other sexual predator. Just that so many false accusations can ruin a man's reputation and career.

And I am sensitive to women's issues, I have a daughter and wife.

ByJoveByJingle
04-27-2006, 11:32 AM
Glad to see the accused gets no rights whatsever. :mad: So any woman can accuse any guy of rape, and without any due process cannot attend classes? Even if it comes out as a disgruntled girlfriend, Sanchez will forever be known as a rapist.

Not saying if he is guilty he shouldn't pay, he should just like any other sexual predator. Just that so many false accusations can ruin a man's reputation and career.

And I am sensitive to women's issues, I have a daughter and wife.
Yeah . . . that's not right.

Of course, it's hard to go to class when you are in jail.

Auercat
04-27-2006, 11:36 AM
Been to the 9-Oh before. Great place for drinks!

I used to drink with Todd Marinovich at the 901. :lol2: No kidding as I was a sophomore at USC when TM was a freshman. So much for Ol' Marv and the puritan childhood of TM. :rolleyes:

Bearing Down on The 9-0 Being Better Than The 5-0 Or The On-Campus Bar

Auercat

SCCat
04-27-2006, 11:41 AM
Yeah . . . that's not right.

Of course, it's hard to go to class when you are in jail.

I'll have to look back through the articles, but that can't be right.

Bail has been set, so I assume he's already (or soon to be) out of prison. But not allowed to attend classes before the determination of guilt? I assume USC is getting pretty close to finals time. If you can't take those finals it's going to be pretty hard to not fail all your classes and lose your football eligibility, irregardless of whether or not you're guilty.

EDIT-I guess the USC administration understands this; the quote below is from one of the previous atricles. Somewhat of a raw deal if they can't figure things out before finals start.

Spring semester classes conclude Friday and final exams are May 3-10. USC officials said it was too early to determine whether Sanchez's eligibility for the 2006 season, which begins Sept. 2 at Arkansas, would be jeopardized.

haji81872
04-27-2006, 11:55 AM
I am sure they will find some way to get him eligible if they can sweep this under the rug. I found this on the Bruinzone site, but was posted on a SC site. . I think it gives a good summary so far.


1. Manny pimpslaps girlfriend and then has to do without pizza.
2. Winnie Justice solicits undercover cop and has to run extra laps.
3. Hershell Dennis is initially accused of rape while a lot of other football players smoke weed and drink - violating team rules. Nothing really happens to anyone, but Dennis is in the dog house for a long time.
4. Winnie Justice's prank with a fake gun does get him kicked out of school for a year, but it's the USC student affairs people tha drop the hammer, not Pom Pom. Perhaps Pom Pom would have done the same, but I doubt it given his history of no discipline.
5. Eric Wright is initially accused of rape but no charges are filed because she can't remember anything - hmmmmm...maybe it's because she was given ecstacy - of which 136 pills are found in the room belonging to Wright and teammate Desmond Reed.
6. Rey Maladjusted hits another student twice, yells "I own the police!" and although he is arrested nothing happens and he misses 1/2 of a game in a blowout win against the Tree.
7. Reggie Bush's parents create this huge magilla that could have teeth but only time will tell.
8. Dirty Sanchez allegedly sexually assaults a woman.

I'm sure there's more. There's the whole Chauncey Washington saga - before and after he became a "student." There is the Smith/Byrd saga which completely underscored how little Pom Pom cares about team discipline. I'm sure there's more, but all of this has occurred under P.C.'s watch, and there are still so many trojan fans in denial that it's almost sad to see.

Plus did Rucker assault some girl at CSU, which is why he had to transfer?
Plus, aren't you guys accepting a transfer from a highly rated LBer from tOSU, who was kicked out for mugging fellow students on campus?

illcat
04-27-2006, 12:01 PM
Merkin
I didn't take it that way. More like if he claims "consensual sex" and she claims "rape" the burden of proof will just that much harder. We don't know the physical evidence, if any. Does Sanchez have scratches on his face? Is there his DNA under her fingernails? Was there any evidence of a roofie (sp?) in her bloodstream? If the only evidence was they had sex without any other physical evidence, you can't possibly convict.

I agree as far as physical evidence goes, but just suppose at some point she said "no I don't want to do this and really means it, where it leaves no doubt in a reasonable person's mind that hey I guess she means "NO". And he continues? Sounds like rape in my book.

I hate to be presumptuous but I can see where they could get to his room for a little heavy tonsil action, then it starts to get serious, she says nope. He thinks to himself I'm a stud no one says no to me and it goes down hill from there.

bhanson
04-27-2006, 12:08 PM
I agree as far as physical evidence goes, but just suppose at some point she said "no I don't want to do this and really means it, where it leaves no doubt in a reasonable person's mind that hey I guess she means "NO". And he continues? Sounds like rape in my book.

I hate to be presumptuous but I can see where they could get to his room for a little heavy tonsil action, then it starts to get serious, she says nope. He thinks to himself I'm a stud no one says no to me and it goes down hill from there.

It is most certainly rape, just no way to prove it.

Accuser: I said "no" and he never stopped.
Sanchez: She never said "no", it was consensual, she just had change of heart later when she sobered up.

So?:confused:

illcat
04-27-2006, 12:50 PM
Merkin
Accuser: I said "no" and he never stopped.
Sanchez: She never said "no", it was consensual, she just had change of heart later when she sobered up.


That is the proverbial Catch 22.

BigO
04-27-2006, 12:54 PM
I used to drink with Todd Marinovich at the 901. :lol2: No kidding as I was a sophomore at USC when TM was a freshman. So much for Ol' Marv and the puritan childhood of TM. :rolleyes:


Isn't it true that they built that bar directly over a parking lot and left the original pavement as flooring?

HermosaCat
04-27-2006, 12:59 PM
I can tell you one thing, it is a S***hole and stinks......

BigO
04-27-2006, 01:18 PM
I can tell you one thing, it is a S***hole and stinks......

Those are my favorite bars! All right, done hijacking now.

ByJoveByJingle
04-27-2006, 01:54 PM
A few questions for you...

1. Do you think the Duke Lacrosse rape accusation is legit? Should the coach have lost his job?


From a HiCat post on the Politics Board:

According to police records, 15 of the 47 players on Duke's national championship runners-up lacrosse team had been charged with misdemeanor crimes ranging from public drunkenness and disturbance to public urination in the previous year. Since 1999, 41 Duke lacrosse players have been charged with misdemeanors in Durham and Orange counties. As reported by the The News & Observer (Raleigh, N.C.), according to campus records, about half the team has had on-campus alcohol violations and other conduct issues. Sports Illustrated reported that a former alum's e-mail exposed stories of lacrosse players "throwing kegs through windows" and purposely "breaking bones" in fight club activities. Collin Finnerty, one of the two lacrosse players indicted Monday, was charged with assault last November in Washington, D.C., after a man accused Finnerty and two others of punching him and calling him "gay and other derogatory names."

So . . . the answer is yes--he should have lost his job.

Taylor
04-27-2006, 02:00 PM
I wonder, did he give her the Dirty Sanchez?

That could make any girl cry rape.

LegallyKenny
04-27-2006, 03:04 PM
What bothers me is that it appears that some posters WANT this to have happened. No matter how much some of you hate USC, no one should be taking pleasure in this occurrence - whether it happened and some young woman was assaulted, or whether it did not and this young man's reputation is ruined.

TucsonDon
04-27-2006, 03:31 PM
WHAT KIND OF A STATEMENT IS THAT? OOOPS SHE WENT INTO HIS ROOM THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS SHE WANTED TO BE RAPED. WHAT KIND OF NEANDERTHAL THINKING IS THAT?
That's really not what I said nor what I was implying. The fact is that the law will look more favorably upon Sanchez because there is more of a likelihood that the sex was between two consenting adults. With the girl not injured (apparently) it will be his word against her word, but she went to his room voluntarily which isn't going to help whatever argument she will make.

the real dill
04-27-2006, 05:14 PM
OMFG. The dynasty is crumbling even quicker than I thought it would. Yikes!

Bearing Down on SC Being Ripe For The Picking

Auercat

Dynasty? I was unaware a team with one BCS title could be considered dynastic? Would you consider LSU and Texas dynasty's as well?

USC:

Rose Bowl victory (non bcs championship game) 1-loss on season
next year wins the bcs title game

Texas:

Rose Bowl victory (non bcs championship game) 1-loss on season
next year wins the bcs title game

F Duke
04-27-2006, 05:26 PM
Give it a rest Dill. You guys won.

the real dill
04-27-2006, 05:33 PM
Give it a rest Dill. You guys won.

I'm just saying, since Texas is on the same run as USC and has the same record over the last three years, and a better record over the last 5 years, are they a dynasty? I wouldn't think so, but if USC is, I guess Texas is too. Have there ever been two dynasties in the same sport at the same time. weird

ByJoveByJingle
04-27-2006, 05:46 PM
I'm just saying, since Texas is on the same run as USC and has the same record over the last three years, and a better record over the last 5 years, are they a dynasty? I wouldn't think so, but if USC is, I guess Texas is too. Have there ever been two dynasties in the same sport at the same time. weird
You are so full of ****. Do you believe most of the stuff you type?

the real dill
04-27-2006, 06:11 PM
You are so full of ****. Do you believe most of the stuff you type?

USC record over the last 5 years: 53-10
UT record over the last 5 years: 56-8

USC record over the last 3 years: 36-2
UT record over the last 3 years: 34-4

Your right, one is definitely light years away from the other:confused:

I was off on the record over the last 3 years though.....didn't realize USC only lost 1 in '03

but i'll stop so i don't hijack the thread. just thought calling usc a dynasty was comical. By the way, OU has a better record over the last 5 years too.......

WallyNoche
04-27-2006, 06:31 PM
trd quote...
but i'll stop so i don't hijack the thread. just thought calling usc a dynasty was comical. By the way, OU has a better record over the last 5 years too.......

dill...please understand...I'm not buying or selling...but how many players won the Heisman Trophy at UT over the past 3 years???

HermosaCat
04-27-2006, 06:34 PM
Noche: I will tell you one thing UT does not have, a Heisman winner who lopped off two heads and got away with it.

WallyNoche
04-27-2006, 06:38 PM
So what's your point??? other than the knife that "lopped off two heads"

MrBug708
04-27-2006, 06:48 PM
USC record over the last 5 years: 53-10
UT record over the last 5 years: 56-8

USC record over the last 3 years: 36-2
UT record over the last 3 years: 34-4

Your right, one is definitely light years away from the other:confused:

I was off on the record over the last 3 years though.....didn't realize USC only lost 1 in '03

but i'll stop so i don't hijack the thread. just thought calling usc a dynasty was comical. By the way, OU has a better record over the last 5 years too.......

I personally compare programs to how they fare vs UCLA over the last two games

ASUHATER!
04-27-2006, 06:52 PM
in that case, usc is the better program, usc owns ucla lately and ucla's last 2 games vs. texas:

1998/09/12 UCLA 49 - Texas 31 W
1997/09/13 UCLA 66 - Texas 3 W

HermosaCat
04-27-2006, 06:54 PM
Hater: 8 and 9 years ago hardly makes an argument!

MrBug708
04-27-2006, 06:57 PM
in that case, usc is the better program, usc owns ucla lately and ucla's last 2 games vs. texas:

1998/09/12 UCLA 49 - Texas 31 W
1997/09/13 UCLA 66 - Texas 3 W

*nods* That 97 UCLA game, I have on tape. It's amazing how great the Texas hype machine is. All they could talk about was how many players on Texas would be in the NFL. None of them were really playing afterthefact, now that Williams is done for this year at least.

MrBug708
04-27-2006, 06:57 PM
Hater: 8 and 9 years ago hardly makes an argument!

Of course not, neither does the last two results for obvious reasons. I just loved that game

ASUHATER!
04-27-2006, 06:58 PM
dont worry, i just present the facts, im still on hermosa's side.

the real dill
04-27-2006, 07:02 PM
dill...please understand...I'm not buying or selling...but how many players won the Heisman Trophy at UT over the past 3 years???

well if that is how you define a dynasty, then USC is a dynasty. Although, you have to admit USC is in a bigger market than UT, and their players get a little more media attention. Texas only wins defensive awards since Ricky Williams.. How about draft picks over a 5 year span? USC is the best program in football over the last 4 years......no question about that. I just think a dynasty requires a minimum of three straight titles. Patriot fans would argue that, but USC has one and half. 1 bcs, 1 ap. If USC is a dynasty, people need to give my Rockets dynasty status for 93-94 and 94-95. Wasn't Marcus Tubbs and Casey Hampton on the 97 team? Both Pro Bowl caliber DT.

MrBug708
04-27-2006, 07:18 PM
Media market - Yes
Media Attention - No

Footballjunkie
04-27-2006, 07:41 PM
An employee of the 901 Club who asked not to be identified told the Los Angeles Times that Sanchez was at the club Tuesday night. The club's security cameras show Sanchez entering the bar around 11:20 p.m. using a fake Arizona ID, the newspaper reported.If he was using a fake Arizona ID he just might be going through a sexual identity crisis. Carrying an Arizona ID and not being an Arizona resident or student might signify a man trying to identify and associate himself with the strong Arizona Western male figure.

Then again I don’t know all of the facts. But if he was wearing an ASU cap…not that there is anything wrong with that…it doesn’t look good.

ByJoveByJingle
04-27-2006, 08:24 PM
. . . and I didn't even have to photoshop this one:

http://www.burntorangenation.com/images/admin/sachez.jpg

:)

F Duke
04-27-2006, 08:37 PM
Can someone please explain the homosexual references? Are there stories? Does he talk like Mike Tyson? I'm not following.

MrBug708
04-28-2006, 12:32 AM
If he was using a fake Arizona ID he just might be going through a sexual identity crisis. Carrying an Arizona ID and not being an Arizona resident or student might signify a man trying to identify and associate himself with the strong Arizona Western male figure.

Then again I don’t know all of the facts. But if he was wearing an ASU cap…not that there is anything wrong with that…it doesn’t look good.

This is a big time internet rumor for obvious reasons, but apparently the name on the ID happens to be the name of a myspace club that has a few USC football players involved with

at the beach
04-28-2006, 08:08 AM
"interim suspension" is equal to "double secret probation." After the smoke clears, money is exchanged, all is back to normal. This is USC, not a Div II school just slapped with violating NCAA rules.
"Susie Cheerleader" will admit it was consensul. Interesting no known knowledge of a "rape kit" test. More to follow as read Scott Wolf in the LA Daily News and his blog site if you can find it. I do not have it.

at the beach
04-28-2006, 08:24 AM
"Double Secret Probation":Although Sanchez was placed on interim suspension Wednesday by Michael Jackson, USC's vice president of student affairs, sources said he will be allowed to take final exams next week. If Sanchez were not allowed to take finals, he would be ineligible to play next season.

scott.wolf@dailynews.com
Note he has to take his "finals" or he would be ineligble. Money is exchanging "hands" faster than you can say "probation". Sounds like Booty is no healing as fast as you thought.
Now back to the "9-0" Club with the "breezies."

HiCat
04-28-2006, 08:46 AM
USC Quarterback Sanchez Free on Bail
Freshman was arrested in alleged sexual assault. A decision about charges may be delayed.
By David Wharton and Gary Klein, Times Staff Writers
April 28, 2006


USC quarterback Mark Sanchez was free on bail Thursday, a day after he was arrested at his apartment on suspicion that he sexually assaulted a female student.

Sanchez was ordered to appear in court at 8:30 a.m. May 17, but police have not presented the case to prosecutors, and charges have not been filed, said Sandi Gibbons, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office.

Sanchez could not be reached for comment.

Sanchez, a freshman who was expected to challenge for a starting role in the fall, was led in handcuffs from Building E of the Cardinal Gardens apartment complex across from campus about 4 p.m. Wednesday. Police have said the assault allegedly took place in the early-morning hours of Wednesday but have declined to provide any other details about the case.

Had Sanchez not posted bail, authorities would have had 48 hours to charge or release him. Now, however, that decision could be delayed. A source familiar with the case said a determination about charges probably would not be made this week.

Witnesses and security cameras placed Sanchez at a club near campus from 11:21 p.m. Tuesday night to 12:59 Wednesday morning, and later, about 1:30 a.m., in a parking lot behind the apartment complex.

Sanchez's arrest came only hours after he attended an on-campus workshop for USC athletes about rape awareness.

USC Coach Pete Carroll said he had spoken with Sanchez, but he would not comment about the conversation.

The Trojan football program has been rocked twice this week — first by news that the Pacific 10 Conference was investigating allegations that the family of Heisman Trophy-winning running back Reggie Bush may have received what the NCAA would consider illegal "extra benefits," and then Sanchez's arrest.

"This process is like, 'You're guilty until proven innocent' " Carroll said, "because it goes to the media and it's splashed…. It surely gives everybody the impression, 'Oh no, it happened.' You'd think the facts would come out first.

"That's the world we live in. That comes with high profile and visibility. That's why we're so hard on every aspect with our kids, so this doesn't happen and we avoid these things."

Carroll has said the USC football program would offer its full cooperation during the investigation.

Sanchez has been placed on "interim suspension" by USC, meaning he cannot attend class or participate in other student activities until the university reviews the situation further.

Spring semester classes conclude today and final exams are May 3-10, which means Sanchez's academic eligibility to play football in the fall could be jeopardized.

However, a source close to the football program said Thursday that students suspended so close to the conclusion of their courses are likely to be allowed to complete work and take finals.


Wharton reported from Los Angeles, Klein from New York. Times staff writer Andrew Blankstein contributed to this report.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/football/la-sp-sanchez28apr28,1,505060.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-coll_footb&ctrack=1&cset=true

HiCat
04-28-2006, 08:54 AM
Meanwhile, in the wake of USC quarterback Mark Sanchez's arrest for suspicion of sexual assault and underage drinking at an off-campus bar, athletic director Mike Garrett sent a memo Thursday directing coaches to meet with their teams to discuss behavior issues.

"With the recent issues before the athletic deptartment, I am requiring the coaches of each of our sports to meet with their student-athletes to discuss our expectations for ethical, compliant and legal behavior," the memo stated.

"We are all aware of the social issues that our student-athletes are confronted with - Thursday (and now Tuesday) night gatherings, the 9-0 (a nickname for the 901 club), the (Fraternity) Row, parties, drinking and drugs.

"We are a very high profile entity and must be aware that conduct in any given situation can easily become public knowledge and can often be exaggerated. We must continuously emphasize and unceasingly re-emphasize the significance of proper behavior and the hurtful consequences of unsuitable behavior."

USC coach Pete Carroll was not on campus



Thursday because he was recruiting but said he saw the memo and would address the team next week.

Witnesses said Sanchez was at the 901 club Wednesday night before the alleged incident occurred and appeared drunk.

Carroll said he was concerned about underage players going to bars, an issue that existed well before Sanchez was arrested.

"We're always on it," Carroll said. "We have to be on the subject regularly. It always is frustrating."

Last October, three days after USC defeated Notre Dame, wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett, tailback LenDale White and linebacker Keith Rivers attended a Victoria's Secret party in Hollywood despite being underage.

Sanchez was released Thursday morning on $200,000 bail. An arraignment hearing is scheduled for May17 in LosAngeles municipal court.

Sanchez, 19, left the 901 club and returned to the Cardinal Gardens apartment complex around 1:30a.m., when he met the freshman female student. According to sources, there could be at least twowitnesses who were nearby when the alleged incident took place and could shed light on the matter.
Although Sanchez was placed on interim suspension Wednesday by Michael Jackson, USC's vice president of student affairs, sources said he will be allowed to take final exams next week. If Sanchez were not allowed to take finals, he would be ineligible to play next season.

scott.wolf@dailynews.com

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_3761231

illcat
04-28-2006, 10:26 AM
"interim suspension" is equal to "double secret probation." After the smoke clears, money is exchanged, all is back to normal. This is USC, not a Div II school just slapped with violating NCAA rules.

Tried to give you some rep but I guess I have to spread it around.

Glad to see everything is warm and fuzzy in condom land. F****** bunch of AS******.

I guess the question you have to ask yourself is, if your daughter was going to USC would you let her go out with a USC football player?

ByJoveByJingle
04-28-2006, 05:36 PM
The latest rumors via Notre Dame board via WildWest via blah blah blah:

Dont' go crazy with this, but interesting.

Hub Arkish of Pro Football Weekly was on the Score 670 this morning and had the following to say about the USC football program (I am summarizing) :

-He said PFW knew about Reggie Bush and his family's house a year ago, but couldn't run the story because they didn't have airtight confirmation on some facts of it. He said Bush 100% knew what was going on and was involved in it, and not only that, but the worst kept secret in college football was that Bush was taking MAJOR freebies for the last year or two. The Bush story, he says, is just getting started, that the Texans have stepped up their calls on shopping the pick since the annual NFL security "open house" a few days ago (when files compiled on every player by league security- a team of about 40 ex-FBI agents, can be viewed by teams), and if they don't get a deal they like, are probably a 50/50 bet to take Mario Williams right now.

-He said that USC has some major problems with institutional control, and that the Bush story will by no means be the last one we will hear. He compared the situation to Michigan basketball under Steve Fisher. He said, correctly, that Fisher was a really nice man who was telling the truth when he said he didn't know what Ed Martin was doing. But the fact remains that it was his JOB to know. He said the difference between Fisher and Carroll is that Fisher was simply too naive about the realities of what can go on at a major DI revenue sport program, having kind of been thrown into it in 1989. Arkush said Carroll's not naive- he doesn't WANT to know, and Hub feels that will ultimately be his undoing. Hub also offered the opinion that the NCAA doesn't like investigating teams- it's hugely expensive.
They only do it when they have to, and the stories first uncovered by the media are usually the first indication of something being wrong.
He said just like the Barry Bonds story, once the door is open, everyone swarms on the story to get a piece of it, and that hunting season is officially open when it comes to the media and USC.

-Arkush made some strong hints about booster involvement in USC recruiting when he said that USC didn't suddenly start bringing in top classes when Carroll arrived just because he's such a charming guy. "When Pete took over, some doors were opened that are shut at most programs," he said, and he said that when recruits visit USC, it's obvious that that the lifestyle of a USC football player is much different from the lifestyle of a football player at most other schools, and recruits are taken in by it.

-Hub said that without trying the case in the media, his people tell him that this Mark Sanchez thing will go away, that it's probably nonsense, and that Mark's biggest problem is that "the two kids on the team he is most tight with, one is seriously emotionally troubled and one, people around the program say, is just flat out a bad seed.
Sanchez doesn't need to go looking for trouble. If he keeps hanging out with the same kids, trouble will find him."

LikesMikey
04-28-2006, 05:57 PM
IllCat,
Who is that in your avatar ?

illcat
04-28-2006, 09:44 PM
She is a talk show host on a Hispanic TV station. We get oprah!! Wonder if they would like to trade.

Puerco
04-29-2006, 06:35 PM
Pamela David. More pics:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2006/pamela-david-p10.php?

Sheesh, my first post on this site and it's about women!

bhanson
04-29-2006, 07:19 PM
I heard Rosie is returning to daytime TV too. Is that her in your avatar Puerco?

illcat
04-30-2006, 01:27 AM
Pamela David. More pics:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2...david-p10.php?

Sheesh, my first post on this site and it's about women!


Thanks for the info!!

Puerco
04-30-2006, 09:58 AM
I heard Rosie is returning to daytime TV too. Is that her in your avatar Puerco?

Lol, Merkin. Maybe a very angry, hungry Rosie.

Oink!

TucsonDon
05-04-2006, 06:23 PM
Looks like the guy who's been bailing out all these arrested 'SC football players for the last two years is retiring from said post.

From Scott Wolf...

Word around USC is that super-lawyer Carmen Trutanich, who represented Hershel Dennis, Eric Wright and Rey Maualuga, will no longer represent Trojan players.

Trutanich is upset his daughter did not get accepted to USC and holds his sometimes nemesis, vice president of student affairs Michael Jackson, responsible.

Way to stick to your principles...a-hole.

HermosaCat
05-04-2006, 06:30 PM
Carmen is setting a fine example for his apparent dumbass daughter.

azpatnca
05-04-2006, 06:48 PM
Is his daughter going to go to the U?

sincerely,

.....Nah, I can't do it.

at the beach
05-04-2006, 07:12 PM
Thanks for giving "Wolfie" his props for reporting the USC story. The lawyer fell out of favor last year as there was questions concerning his "pro bono" relatiohship.
Do you have a feeling this program is starting to get out of control and will be the "MIami of the Left Coast." Look for Carroll to leave and then a "Smith" type of scenario to happen. And who is building an up an coming program?????????????? Yes you heard it first here. Where is Jim Healy now that we need him.

MrBug708
05-04-2006, 08:50 PM
Looks like the guy who's been bailing out all these arrested 'SC football players for the last two years is retiring from said post.

From Scott Wolf...

Word around USC is that super-lawyer Carmen Trutanich, who represented Hershel Dennis, Eric Wright and Rey Maualuga, will no longer represent Trojan players.

Trutanich is upset his daughter did not get accepted to USC and holds his sometimes nemesis, vice president of student affairs Michael Jackson, responsible.

I beg to differ. I cant imagine his daughter is less intelligent then someone like Chauncy Washington and lord knows C.T. is done more for SC then others
Way to stick to your principles...a-hole.

bhanson
05-04-2006, 10:29 PM
Looks like the guy who's been bailing out all these arrested 'SC football players for the last two years is retiring from said post.

From Scott Wolf...

Word around USC is that super-lawyer Carmen Trutanich, who represented Hershel Dennis, Eric Wright and Rey Maualuga, will no longer represent Trojan players.

Trutanich is upset his daughter did not get accepted to USC and holds his sometimes nemesis, vice president of student affairs Michael Jackson, responsible.

Way to stick to your principles...a-hole.

A lawyer with principles? :confused:*





*-no disprespect to Kenny or Perpeph intended

TucsonDon
05-04-2006, 10:41 PM
Yeah...It was sarcasm. This guy works in the DA's office and has been getting Trojan football players out of trouble for a while now by using shady tactics. It looks like he was only doing it to get his daughter into school, which makes him even more of an a-hole then I thought.

ByJoveByJingle
05-05-2006, 04:27 AM
It looks like he was only doing it to get his daughter into school, which makes him even more of an a-hole then I thought.
I can't figure out if this makes the USC administration smart for trying to avoid the inevitable discussions about quid pro quo . . . or dumb as hell for burning their "get of jail free" card?

HiCat
05-05-2006, 09:44 AM
USC's Sanchez Hires Attorney
By Gary Klein and David Wharton, Times Staff Writers
May 5, 2006


USC quarterback Mark Sanchez, who was arrested last week on suspicion of sexual assault, has hired a prominent local defense attorney.

Leonard Levine said Thursday he had been in contact with the Los Angeles County district attorney's office and would meet with prosecutors to present what he says are facts and evidence that would clear Sanchez.

"We're confident, based on what we know, that Mark will be exonerated of all allegations of sexual assault," Levine said.

Sanchez, 19, was arrested on April 26 after a female USC student told police he had sexually assaulted her. Sanchez is free on $200,000 bail and is scheduled to appear in court May 17.

The district attorney's office has received some results from a Los Angeles Police Department investigation, but detectives are continuing to work the case, according to law enforcement officials. No decision has been made on whether charges will be filed, a spokesman for the district attorney's office said.

Levine has defended a number of high-profile clients, including Michael Edwin Wempe, a priest found guilty in February of one count of molesting a boy; actor Jeffrey Jones, who in 2003 pleaded no contest to inducing a 14-year-old boy to pose for sexually explicit photographs; and Russell Otis, the boys' basketball coach at Compton Dominguez who in April 2001 was acquitted on charges that he sexually molested one of his players.

A UCLA graduate, Levine acknowledged he has written several letters to The Times' Sports Viewpoint in the last few years, some critical of former basketball coach Steve Lavin and current football Coach Karl Dorrell.

Levine's name was also on a letter that was published by the Times on April 23, 2005, after the district attorney's office, citing insufficient evidence, did not file sex- or drug-related charges against former USC cornerback Eric Wright.

It read:

"Let's see, UCLA football players are arrested for drunk driving and handicapped-parking offenses, and are prosecuted and convicted. USC players are arrested on suspicion of rape, with 136 illegal pills in their apartment, and no charges are filed.

"Not only does USC have better players, it has better lawyers! It's almost like, if you went to USC, you can get away with anything."

Levine said he did not write the letter, that it was penned by a friend who signed his name to it as a joke without him knowing.

"It's clever, but it's not me," he said.

USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett declined to comment specifically about any controversy surrounding USC football — including the school compliance office investigating the financial arrangement by which All-American receiver Dwayne Jarrett and former quarterback Matt Leinart shared an apartment last season.

Also, the Pacific 10 Conference and the NCAA are investigating the relationship between a fledgling sports marketing firm and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush and his family.

An investigators' meeting with one of the firm's executives has been delayed until next week, the executive's attorney said.



"Kids are not perfect and we understand this," Garrett said. "That's why they're in college, to grow and make mistakes…. Our biggest job is to put them back together and mend them so they learn from their mistakes and also learn from their successes."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-sanchez5may05,1,2456198.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-coll-usc

HiCat
05-05-2006, 10:31 AM
Don't know if this was posted:

05/05/2006 12:00:00 AM PDT

USC notes: Witnesses defend Sanchez
BY SCOTT WOLF, Staff Writer



At least two witnesses emerged in the sexual-assault arrest of USC quarterback Mark Sanchez that could give statements viewed favorable toward Sanchez's case, according to sources.
Two USC students were inside Sanchez's apartment during the alleged incident. The students were not in the bedroom but were in an adjacent room of the apartment.

"I was in the area," said a student who did not wish to be identified. "I've heard both versions. Of course, I don't believe Mark did it."

Also in the apartment was Sanchez's roommate, linebacker Brian Cushing, who told police he was asleep, according to sources. That would mean there are three witnesses considered favorable because none would say they heard a rape occurred, according to legal sources.

Meanwhile, police sent the case to the district attorney's office's for review Wednesday. It could two weeks for a decision, sources said.

Sanchez, who is on "interim suspension" at USC returned to the campus this week and took a final exam Wednesday. His lawyer, Leonard Levine, released a statement Thursday, the first public remarks since Sanchez's arrest.

"Mark comes from a close-knit and very supportive family. They are proud of the


ethics and integrity that Mark has always displayed on and off the field. Anyone close to Mark knows that he is a young man of exceptional character."

There was some surprise among USC circles Sanchez was not represented by Carmen Trutanich, who was the lawyer for tailback Hershel Dennis, cornerback Eric Wright and linebacker Rey Maualuga during their legal problems. Sources said Trutanich is no longer representing USC players because he is unhappy his daughter did not get accepted to the university. Trutanich could not be reached for comment Thursday.

Quarterback commitments: USC received commitments from quarterbacks Samson Szakacsy of Camarillo and Aaron Corp of Orange Lutheran. The commitments follow USC's top two targets, Jimmy Clausen of Oaks Christian and Mike Paulus of Syracuse, N.Y., committing to Notre Dame and North Carolina, respectively.

http://www.dailynews.com/usc/ci_3787178

TucsonDon
05-05-2006, 11:53 PM
USC's Sanchez Hires Attorney
By Gary Klein and David Wharton, Times Staff Writers
May 5, 2006


USC quarterback Mark Sanchez, who was arrested last week on suspicion of sexual assault, has hired a prominent local defense attorney.

Leonard Levine said Thursday he had been in contact with the Los Angeles County district attorney's office and would meet with prosecutors to present what he says are facts and evidence that would clear Sanchez.

"We're confident, based on what we know, that Mark will be exonerated of all allegations of sexual assault," Levine said.

Sanchez, 19, was arrested on April 26 after a female USC student told police he had sexually assaulted her. Sanchez is free on $200,000 bail and is scheduled to appear in court May 17.

The district attorney's office has received some results from a Los Angeles Police Department investigation, but detectives are continuing to work the case, according to law enforcement officials. No decision has been made on whether charges will be filed, a spokesman for the district attorney's office said.

Levine has defended a number of high-profile clients, including Michael Edwin Wempe, a priest found guilty in February of one count of molesting a boy; actor Jeffrey Jones, who in 2003 pleaded no contest to inducing a 14-year-old boy to pose for sexually explicit photographs; and Russell Otis, the boys' basketball coach at Compton Dominguez who in April 2001 was acquitted on charges that he sexually molested one of his players.

A UCLA graduate, Levine acknowledged he has written several letters to The Times' Sports Viewpoint in the last few years, some critical of former basketball coach Steve Lavin and current football Coach Karl Dorrell.

Levine's name was also on a letter that was published by the Times on April 23, 2005, after the district attorney's office, citing insufficient evidence, did not file sex- or drug-related charges against former USC cornerback Eric Wright.

It read:

"Let's see, UCLA football players are arrested for drunk driving and handicapped-parking offenses, and are prosecuted and convicted. USC players are arrested on suspicion of rape, with 136 illegal pills in their apartment, and no charges are filed.

"Not only does USC have better players, it has better lawyers! It's almost like, if you went to USC, you can get away with anything."

Levine said he did not write the letter, that it was penned by a friend who signed his name to it as a joke without him knowing.

"It's clever, but it's not me," he said.

USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett declined to comment specifically about any controversy surrounding USC football — including the school compliance office investigating the financial arrangement by which All-American receiver Dwayne Jarrett and former quarterback Matt Leinart shared an apartment last season.

Also, the Pacific 10 Conference and the NCAA are investigating the relationship between a fledgling sports marketing firm and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush and his family.

An investigators' meeting with one of the firm's executives has been delayed until next week, the executive's attorney said.



"Kids are not perfect and we understand this," Garrett said. "That's why they're in college, to grow and make mistakes…. Our biggest job is to put them back together and mend them so they learn from their mistakes and also learn from their successes."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-sanchez5may05,1,2456198.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-coll-usc
Ohhh....The Irony.

ArzCatz3
05-06-2006, 04:51 AM
Kinda like how you weren't accepted to UCLA, TD?

TucsonDon
05-06-2006, 05:18 AM
How many times are you going to say that to me, and have me respond by telling you that I never had a desire to go to that school, didn't even apply, before you learn how to read?

CaptainObvious
05-06-2006, 05:38 AM
How many times are you going to say that to me, and have me respond by telling you that I never had a desire to go to that school, didn't even apply, before you learn how to read?

But in all fairness, TD, it does beg the question. You are obviously a huge UCLA fan, and that's great. But since you were (and still are) a huge fan of the Bruins, why didn't you apply, and why did you have no interest in going there? Just curious. There are many valid reasons. And I understand that UCLA is one of the elite schools in the country, especially on the West Coast. Was it because of money? I could understand that, I guess. I firmly believe that you can get an excellent education at most colleges and Universities, and that you can get out what you put in. It depends upon the individual.

For ****'s sake, I was stupid enough to choose what school to attend based on where my high school girlfriend was going. Talk about stupid.

But, if I hadn't made that decision, I never would have met my awesome wife, so I guess everything happens for a reason, or my subconscious knew what it was doing.

But I have digressed to the Nth degree. Why no UCLA for TD/DI?

TucsonDon
05-06-2006, 06:15 AM
But in all fairness, TD, it does beg the question. You are obviously a huge UCLA fan, and that's great. But since you were (and still are) a huge fan of the Bruins, why didn't you apply, and why did you have no interest in going there? Just curious. There are many valid reasons. And I understand that UCLA is one of the elite schools in the country, especially on the West Coast. Was it because of money? I could understand that, I guess. I firmly believe that you can get an excellent education at most colleges and Universities, and that you can get out what you put in. It depends upon the individual.

For ****'s sake, I was stupid enough to choose what school to attend based on where my high school girlfriend was going. Talk about stupid.

But, if I hadn't made that decision, I never would have met my awesome wife, so I guess everything happens for a reason, or my subconscious knew what it was doing.

But I have digressed to the Nth degree. Why no UCLA for TD/DI?
First off, I've seen the money issue mentioned in a few threads asking this same question, which I don't understand at all. UCLA is a public school, and being from California, it would cost a lot less for me to attend that school than to go out of state.

In terms of why I didn't apply, I've never had a desire to stay in Los Angeles for school. I've always thought college was a time to get away from everything else and start a new life during the years set aside to figure out what you want to do with adulthood. It was never even a consideration to go to any of the colleges in California, although to be perfectly honest, while my test scores were high, I'm not what you would call a 'motivated' student, and the grades I had in high school probably weren't good enough to get into Berkeley, Stanford or UCLA (although I can imagine that with my entire family having attended the school and law school, gone through the Greek system, and been financially supportive for a long time, something could've been done to fix that problem, but what's the point of that if I don't want to go in the first place, and didn't earn the right to begin with?).

I just met up with my father and some family in Indy for the Final Four, and over dinner one night one of my brothers started questioning my loyalty to UCLA over Arizona. I talk to him a lot about what goes on here, and tell him when a big game is coming up, or about an exciting Arizona player that's going to give the Bruins a hard time...etc. He wasn't convinced that I would cheer for UCLA over UA (that may be hard to believe but its true) and while I sat there speechless and a little offended that he would make that assumption, I finally just had to point out that I had travelled all the way to Indiana to watch UCLA play in the Final Four, something I probably wouldn't do for Arizona. Perhaps he was just being an a-hole, and he thinks that spending those years in Westwood gives him some sort of entitlement to be a 'bigger' Bruin fan then I am, but I don't feel the same way. My lack of desire to attend that University in no way takes away from my love for the school and teams. It doesn't remove the fact that I missed about three b-ball home games from the time I was 2 until I went away to college, nor does it take away the summer camps, pick-up games, acting classes...etc...that I took place in at the school growing up.

If you were living about a mile from UCLA's campus your entire life, wouldn't you want to move away for college? If you developed a passion and a love for the school and its teams, wouldn't you continue to be as outspoken and vociferous a supporter no matter where you moved to?

A lot of people around here don't get that, and give me a hard time about it, which really doesn't bother me. I don't feel the need to justify my passion for the sports teams at UCLA against an angry mob. You asked in an inquisitive and respectful manner so I'm giving you a response. I think at this point its hard to question my loyalties, and I'm unashamed both to be a Bruin fan who goes to Arizona, and an Arizona student who's a Bruin fan.

LegallyKenny
05-06-2006, 09:33 PM
A family memeber who is a partner at Gibson Dunn probably would've had the pull to get you into UCLA. Should've used it.

HiCat
05-06-2006, 09:36 PM
A family memeber who is a partner at Gibson Dunn probably would've had the pull to get you into UCLA. Should've used it.

Is that the Gibson Dunn and Crutcher? wow.. impressive..

TucsonDon
05-06-2006, 09:40 PM
A family memeber who is a partner at Gibson Dunn probably would've had the pull to get you into UCLA. Should've used it.
Kenny, did you read my post?

LegallyKenny
05-06-2006, 09:49 PM
Is that the Gibson Dunn and Crutcher? wow.. impressive..

Yeah, they're not bad. Pretty big deal in LA.

Immel, I took your post to mean that at least part of the reason you didn't go to UCLA was that you didn't think you would get in to a UC. And I was just commenting that your uncle definitely could've helped you out.
I'm definitely the last one to give you a hard time about being a UCLA fan at Arizona, since I'm an Arizona fan at UCLA. But, I don't go about posting about Arizona on UCLA boards, that's where I see the unnecessary conflicts.

TucsonDon
05-06-2006, 10:02 PM
Yeah, they're not bad. Pretty big deal in LA.

Immel, I took your post to mean that at least part of the reason you didn't go to UCLA was that you didn't think you would get in to a UC. And I was just commenting that your uncle definitely could've helped you out.
I specifically said numerous times in the post that I never had a desire to stay in the state for college. Btw, its my Brother not my Uncle that is a Partner at Gibson, Dunn.

LegallyKenny
05-06-2006, 10:16 PM
I specifically said numerous times in the post that I never had a desire to stay in the state for college. Btw, its my Brother not my Uncle that is a Partner at Gibson, Dunn.

Ahh, I asked Gershon if it was a relation last year when I was intervieweing at GDC and thought he said uncle. My bad.
You also included the discussion about grades, which would be entirely irrelevant if your only motivation was getting out of state.

TucsonDon
05-06-2006, 10:21 PM
Just read the post again....For the sake of honesty I thought I'd provide all the facts but since I've never cosidered going there it wasn't an issue.

LegallyKenny
05-06-2006, 10:29 PM
I'll take your word for it. But I stand by my point that GDC has a lot of pull around here - though probably more at USC than UCLA. :) Latham is probably the more UCLA firm.

Jason Scheer
05-07-2006, 03:01 AM
I actually understand Don's point of view. I know everybody or a lot of people like California and such and for the most part I do too but I had the mindset that in no way was I going to go to school in California.