Blount-Is he gone or just suspended?

[WildcatBlitz]

Just so people know and when the you tube comes up. Blout during the handshake hit a Boise State player in the face, the player had no helmet on. He then had to be restrained and even push his on team mates and yelled at them. Pushed security, and my guess is yelling. Almost hit a fan, during the walk to the tunnel. If security wasn't around he would have been in the stands.

So what do you think should happen?

Does this actually ruin the season for the ducks?

Thank Bluemikey for posting.
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[Adam Hawes]

He needs to be done with football, absolutely inexcusable.

[UofAcat23]

Not to mention the whole Grigsby/UNM thing before the game.

Yikes :eek:

[Jason Scheer]

That was amazing..and then he went after a fan!

[WildcatBlitz]

On top of that how will this effect Oregon's team?

[Adam Hawes]

Going after security/cops as well. Wow, just wow.

[IH8ASSU]

Wow! Ridiculous. He should be done for the season. Absolutely no excuse for that.

[Absolute Cat]

Stay classy Oregon............

[WildcatBlitz]

I agree with everyone. He should be gone. I would even think hitting the guy in the face would just give him a season gone or a atleast half the season but everything else really shows violent behavior.

[dman25]

He was like Ron Artest and Carmelo combined into one tonight.

[NETSFAN4HASSAN]

Wow that guy lost it. That behavior is completely worthy of losing his spot. He has the privilege to play college sports....and he lost it tonight. It's not a given. He was fighting his own teammates...and it seemed like they had enough of him as well.

[cactuscat62]

That's assault...someone needs tp press charges.

Totally inexcusible

[dc4azcats]

Nice to see that Blount has put those anger management issues behind him. As Adam Hawes said - Wow!!!

[scumdevils86]

I hope I am wrong but I doubt he will be totally done. That was one of the worst displays I have ever seen.

[Beezy44]

That's assault my brother. He should be packing his bags.

[econocat]

I know it's LeGarrette Blount, had a great season last season, blah blah... but maybe it's addition by subtraction if they lose him? Awful performance by him tonight. And LaMichael James looked pretty good, granted he only had 2 carries, but he's really fast.

I'm sure it's not, but he really disgusted me tonight and I'd imagine Chip Kelly would be happy not to deal with Blount's BS for the rest of the season.

[JMarkJohns]

The new Commish of the Pac-10 was at the game. He can't be pleased. I'm sure he'll be calling Kelly and weighing in with his opinion, if allowed. I can't imagine him playing another game this year.

[LegallyKenny]

I can't be the only one who would've enjoyed seeing those Boise State frat douches in the first row get knocked around a bit.

[AZCatFANatic]

The Paris Hilton of College Sports!!!! What a joke...I am pissed that the Boise State players just stood there and didn't do anything after he just sucker punched one of their own.

[smashmode]

1 game suspension against a cupcake.

This is Oregon after all.

[WildcatBlitz]

1 game suspension against a cupcake.

This is Oregon after all.

Not sure the Pac 10 commissioner, Nike, and the new coach want the season to continue like this. He was already kicked off the team once.

Even the NCAA might require suspension. I swear they did to the Miami-FIA fights. I could be wrong though.

[Machina]

I think that the egg the team laid will affect the team more than Blount and his action. It may be the thing that gets Oregon over this if he is kicked off, which I think he should be. That dude represents the University of Oregon, the State of Oregon, and all 10 Universities of the PAC-10 when he takes the field and he spit in all their faces and acted like a pathetic thug tonight. Kick him off.

I am thinking that it is 65% that he will get kicked off. Two game suspension is my other possibility.

PS His apology is almost as pathetic as his actions.

[WildcatBlitz]

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292460068

""I just apologize to anyone watching that," Blount said. "I just apologize to all of our fans and all of Boise's fans. That's something I shouldn't have done. I lost my head.""

It also states that he will not be arrested by Boise police.

""I couldn't have envisioned anything worse than this right here," said Blount, who set a Ducks record with 17 rushing touchdowns last season."

[cpt]

Not equating the two at all but I think the lineman that taunted him should be sanctioned as well -- that was horrible, horrible sportsmanship to get in the face of an opponent (a known emotional one at that and rub it in their face) If it had been in a bar after the game, no one would be pissed he got popped.

And yes, I hate Boise State with a passion - let them play a Pac-10 schedule and let's see what their record is.

[smashmode]

If it had been in a bar after the game, no one would be pissed he got popped.


And it would have been assault, and blount would have gotten taken away.

[barringer97]

I think you might have to suspend him for the year, at least 5 games...

[cpt]

And it would have been assault, and blount would have gotten taken away.

And when if it went to trial, he'd have a good chance of a lesser sentence because of the lineman's actions.

[Ziggiles]

1. To much talent on a team that looked "bad" at best.

2. He is going to be suspended "indefinitely", which is code for, he is suspended until the story blows over by mid-season and will be reinstated, especially if they are as bad on offense as they looked like last night. I think 4-6 games?

[Chicat]

And when if it went to trial, he'd have a good chance of a lesser sentence because of the lineman's actions.

I didn't see the incident. What did the lineman do/say?

[phenom5]

I don't think anything will happen to Blount. As far as I know, this is only his 2nd offense.

After watching that game, at Oregon it's 3 and out...right? ;)

[phenom5]

I didn't see the incident. What did the lineman do/say?

Something along the lines of What's up now *****.

[SCCat]

Two things...

1. He really gets that backpedal going once he gets that sucker punch in. Real nice technique.

2. Just watching that 70 second video there (so not knowing the rest of the story, whatever that rest of it is) the actions of the player are those of a madman. Anyone can lose it for a couple seconds on the field and do something they regret, but that's not what that was.

Without even getting into the questions like "Does the University of Oregon want to ally/market itself with those kind of players?", I think as a coach (and as a new coach replacing somewhat of a legend) you might want to take control of this situation. For that I think Ziggles "suspended indefinetly" analysis would be the way for the coach to try and take control himself and try to take it out of the new commissioner's hands, who himself might be interested in setting his own stamp on the league.

[Chicat]

Something along the lines of What's up now *****.

The answer to that question should have been "Uh, certainly not our ranking."

[NYCats]

Oregon Ducks LeGarrette Blount’s post game punch should result in season long suspension

http://www.allpac10.com/oregon-ducks-legarrette-blounts-post-game-punch-should-result-in-season-long-suspension/

[cpt]

Two things...

1. He really gets that backpedal going once he gets that sucker punch in. Real nice technique.

2. Just watching that 70 second video there (so not knowing the rest of the story, whatever that rest of it is) the actions of the player are those of a madman. Anyone can lose it for a couple seconds on the field and do something they regret, but that's not what that was.

Without even getting into the questions like "Does the University of Oregon want to ally/market itself with those kind of players?", I think as a coach (and as a new coach replacing somewhat of a legend) you might want to take control of this situation. For that I think Ziggles "suspended indefinetly" analysis would be the way for the coach to try and take control himself and try to take it out of the new commissioner's hands, who himself might be interested in setting his own stamp on the league.

Is it really a sucker punch if the guy says something that is likely to incite the other person with a reaction? Based on the Boise State coach's reaction to what was said, I think it's safe to say it was out of bounds. To me, a sucker punch is no warning whatsoever and this doesn't meet that definition.

[charcoal01]

i was listening to a morning radio program and a caller called in and said a lot of eugene area papers were claiming that the lineman said something to blount that involved calling him the n word. not that i condone his actions, just seeing if anyone else can dredge up the info to back what the caller claims.

[barringer97]

Is it really a sucker punch if the guy says something that is likely to incite the other person with a reaction? Based on the Boise State coach's reaction to what was said, I think it's safe to say it was out of bounds. To me, a sucker punch is no warning whatsoever and this doesn't meet that definition.

In that situation, no one expects a punch...I vote for sucka.

[barringer97]

i was listening to a morning radio program and a caller called in and said a lot of eugene area papers were claiming that the lineman said something to blount that involved calling him the n word. not that i condone his actions, just seeing if anyone else can dredge up the info to back what the caller claims.

He didn't use the N word.

Just Oregon fans making excuses.

[Flipper]

Suspension is more like it. Maybe half the season.

Dude's emotionally down, and went off on that BSU kid who taunted him. I'm more for giving him another chance, as long as he continues to be contrite about the incident.

I know, I know, everybody's going to be calling for his head, but I think suspension is more like it.

[LikesMikey]

I'm sure there was a lot of trash talking going on during the game and there is a better video of the pre punch of what the bs player did. He walked up on the guys blind side and pushed him on his shoulder pads and said something that set the ou player off. The bs coach is grabbing for the guy to rip him a new arse hole when he gets hit.
I am not condoning his actions one iota, he totally lost control of himself, but there are 2 sides to every story and I'd love to know what the bs player said.

[Machina]

I didn't see the incident. What did the lineman do/say?

On the Dan Patrick show today, they said they watch the video a bunch of times to see what he was saying to Blount and appeared to them that he was saying that "Now you owe us two @$$whoopings". Since Blount was talking smack all week and saying he owed BSU an @$$whooping for last year

Also, on first and ten today they mentioned that in his apology, he didn't say he was sorry to the BSU player

[Officer Craig]

Yeah he didn't use the N word. And the lineman did nothing wrong, he talked some ****. You think blount didn't talk any **** the entire game?!

[popque]

Oregon Ducks LeGarrette Blount’s post game punch should result in season long suspension


It would be pretty funny if his career rushing yards were lower at the end of this season than they were at the end of last season.

[cactuscat62]

Checkout this apology...you think someone instructed him to say he was sorry:)


http://www.kval.com/sports/local/57180337.html

[TheCat]

I look at Boise St's coach and he was going after his own player when he got hit. Something tells me the guy was not acting properly when your own coach is grabbing you. Probably learned a valuable lessen about taunting from both his coach and Blount.

I don't think he sould be suspended more than one game unless it is for his pitful performance.

Just pulled up another view of it and the Boise St player was advancing toward him with his gums flapping and the HC came from 20 feet away to push him the same time he got hit. He actually hit his own player harder. Wish he would have shown that much fight in the game.

[catgrad97]

The punch out in the open from Blount was bad enough. Let's not be naive here: players throw punches in football, but the smart ones do it in the scrum where nobody can see and they can get away with it.

But as SCCat pointed out, it was Blount's actions AFTER the punch that were clear indications of an uncontrolled, unstable young man. The bounce-back, waving his arms. Going after cops, Boise fans and other players.

What was Blount thinking? He wasn't. He was acting worse than Clubber Lang in the ring out there, having to be restrained by cops as well as coaches, and embarrassing the entire sport of college football in the process.

My prediction: He'll get suspended 'indefinitely', maybe even the entire season. But Kelly & Bellotti will magically find a medical excuse for a redshirt to save his eligibility, once this all blows over in December.

[WildcatBlitz]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4445891

Pac-10 will review the actions and will punish Blout accordingly.

It also states "According to Blount, one fan brandished a chair at him and another punched him. Two police officers and Frost nearly carried Blount to the Boise State athletic building, where the visiting team dresses."

When the hell did that happened? He charged into the crowd and the crowd moved back. I didn't see any chairs or even a punch from a fan.

[True Colors]

ESPN's sportscenter has shown some brief clips of the Oregon player sucker punching the opponent from Boise State. Here is a youtube video with the full incident.

TC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVDCoNnVbr4

[azlax04]

Thanks for the link.

Did you know that you can go to the grey box in the upper right hand corner of the youtube page, copy the embed link, and post the video directly to the board?

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[Machina]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4445891

Pac-10 will review the actions and will punish Blout accordingly.

It also states "According to Blount, one fan brandished a chair at him and another punched him. Two police officers and Frost nearly carried Blount to the Boise State athletic building, where the visiting team dresses."

When the hell did that happened? He charged into the crowd and the crowd moved back. I didn't see any chairs or even a punch from a fan.

He didn't, fans were just yelling at hime and giving him poop. I saw one dude give him the F bomb a few times but thats the worst I saw.

Sorry I listen to a lot of sports radio, and Colin Cowherd said he probably went from a 2nd round pick to undrafted, even if he plays this year, because of last night.

[Itamicbomb]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l94/ucfclownjk/Blount.gif

[Jason Scheer]

Well we know he didn't use the word brandished...

[Zero]

He also got into it with one of his own players.

[Officer Craig]

itamicbomb that is awesome!!!

[Luuuuuuuuuuuute]

I see Oregon suspending Blount for 5, maybe 6 games. Probably 6. Hmm, let's see, that would make him eligible to come back around Halloween. Who do they play that week? Oh, USC. Hmmmmmm :wink2:

[Taylor]

He was just keepin' it real.

[TheCat]

If he is suspended more than a week it is overkill. If you taunt someone on the playground after a loss you might get your butt kicked too.

The key to me is the reaction of the BSU HC who went after his own player before any punch. He didn't like his actions either.

[smashmode]

Is it really a sucker punch if the guy says something that is likely to incite the other person with a reaction?.

Yes its a sucker punch because he was no longer engaged with Blount and was basically turned around on him. Its a ***** punch.

[MountainCat]

Let's ask the real question - Second game of the year to kick off the football season (1st game was 3-4 hours earlier) and we have our first fight at the end of game TEAM hand shakes as mandated by the NCAA. Do we see more of this coming?

Blount needs to be suspended indefinately, but we all should have seen this coming. Wait until Michigan plays Notre Dame, or Florida plays Florida State, Oklahome plays Texas, etc, etc, etc, ...... Arizona plays ASU, etc, etc,.....

Shake hands with team captains at the beginning of the game (coin toss) and play the game, then go home.

[smashmode]

Blount should have ran off the field, the way he embarassed himself, and couldn't back up his smack talk.

[TheCat]

He didn't, fans were just yelling at hime and giving him poop. I saw one dude give him the F bomb a few times but thats the worst I saw.

Sorry I listen to a lot of sports radio, and Colin Cowherd said he probably went from a 2nd round pick to undrafted, even if he plays this year, because of last night.


Cowherd is a joke for saying that. 1st he wasn't a second rounder and two the NFL could care less if you got into 1 fight in college.

[Merkin]

Pregame handshakes did not do any good! Note that NCAA!!!

If he is suspended more than a week it is overkill.

Ever play sports? Taunting is just part of the game. Retaliating with a sucker punch is not in front of everyone is not.

[Taylor]

Dude needs to back off on the 'roids and smoke a blunt.

[TheCat]

Let's ask the real question - Second game of the year to kick off the football season (1st game was 3-4 hours earlier) and we have our first fight at the end of game TEAM hand shakes as mandated by the NCAA. Do we see more of this coming?

Blount needs to be suspended indefinately, but we all should have seen this coming. Wait until Michigan plays Notre Dame, or Florida plays Florida State, Oklahome plays Texas, etc, etc, etc, ...... Arizona plays ASU, etc, etc,.....

Shake hands with team captains at the beginning of the game (coin toss) and play the game, then go home.


Shaking hands is only this week.

[MountainCat]

Shaking hands is only this week.

I thought it was for all games, oh well.

Either way it is a stupid idea - Who came up with this idea anyhow? It's pretty obvious what the outcome will be in the long run.

[TheCat]

Pregame handshakes did not do any good! Note that NCAA!!!



Ever play sports? Taunting is just part of the game. Retaliating with a sucker punch is not in front of everyone is not.

Yeah I have played sports. You should expect to get your ass kicked if you act the clown after a game. I don't know how you call it a sucker punch when the guy was moving toward him. What made it a sucker punch was the players coach grabbing him at the same time the punch was thrown. The guy knew what he was doing and got his ass kicked for it.

Who's actions do you think contributed to this? Was Blount going to throw a punch at anyone? Now Blount will be suspended and all will be right with the world.

Listen what he did was wrong and he should have showed more self control which is what is expected. He lost it and popped a big mouth. I just don't think it is that big a deal.

[TheCat]

I thought it was for all games, oh well.

Either way it is a stupid idea - Who came up with this idea anyhow? It's pretty obvious what the outcome will be in the long run.

Dick Tomey came up with it.

[TheCat]

Yes its a sucker punch because he was no longer engaged with Blount and was basically turned around on him. Its a ***** punch.


He was turned around because his coach had grabbed his butt.....

[JMarkJohns]

Yeah I have played sports. You should expect to get your ass kicked if you act the clown after a game.

You should expect some lip if all you've been doing is running yours.

Two-way street. Blount talked trash, couldn't back it up, had trash talked back at him, couldn't handle it.

Blount started this back-n-forth of trash talk, and then couldn't let it stay just trash talking... escalating it into assault and attempted assault several times over.

[Taylor]

You should expect some lip if all you've been doing is running yours.

Two-way street. Blount talked trash, couldn't back it up, had trash talked back at him, couldn't handle it.

Blount started this back-n-forth of trash talk, and then couldn't let it stay just trash talking... escalating it into assault and attempted assault several times over.

Assault? Please. He was jest keepin' it real.

[WildcatBlitz]

Yeah I have played sports. You should expect to get your ass kicked if you act the clown after a game. I don't know how you call it a sucker punch when the guy was moving toward him. What made it a sucker punch was the players coach grabbing him at the same time the punch was thrown. The guy knew what he was doing and got his ass kicked for it.

Who's actions do you think contributed to this? Was Blount going to throw a punch at anyone? Now Blount will be suspended and all will be right with the world.

Listen what he did was wrong and he should have showed more self control which is what is expected. He lost it and popped a big mouth. I just don't think it is that big a deal.

Is that the only part you saw? He shoved his own team-mate hard in the head right afterwards. The teammate was shocked, and so where the others. He then jumped at fans, and would have fought them if security didn't get to him first. He would have been in the stands, not ifs about it. He then hit a cop and pushed security. I'm sure yelling profanities the whole time.

That isn't a big deal?

Oh BTW hitting someone in the face after being taunted especially after Blout talking all off season long. He deserved the taunt, and a push is fine in retaliation but a punch in the face and then run away like a girl?

[EastCoastCat]

I might have a little (and I mean very little) compassion for Blount if hitting the BSU player was his only action. It looked like he was walking away pretty dejected, and all by himself, when Hout kind of grabs him and starts giving him the business.

But then he goes ballistic with his own players, security guards and oppossing fans to the point where they need to bring out the white jacket.

That's where he went too far and deserves being dismissed from the team.

I think if he only hit the player the penalty would be less harsh then what he's going to get.

[alieberman]

Boise St just announced they will not punish their guy.

[WildcatBlitz]

Hout is not suspended.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/5841/boise-state-will-not-suspend-hout

Didn't think he was going to be.

[cpt]

Hout is not suspended.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/5841/boise-state-will-not-suspend-hout

Didn't think he was going to be.

He should be. He showed very poor sportsmanship. Nowhere in the same league as Blount but still...what kind of message does that send? It's OK if you are the victor to kick the other side when they are down? That's pretty ****ty. Go celebrate with your team, not try to tear the other team down.

[Machina]

Hout is not suspended.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/5841/boise-state-will-not-suspend-hout

Didn't think he was going to be.

Hout didn't do anything. He just gave it back to Blount. Blount wrote a check he couldn't cash, he deserves to be embarrased and have his check posted behind the cashier for everyone to see, he does not have the right though to be a biznitch and suckerpunch someone and then backdown like a girl with his helmet still on. If the ORegon coach was 20 lbs lighter that would have been ron artest times 5.

[cpt]

Hout didn't do anything. He just gave it back to Blount. Blount wrote a check he couldn't cash, he deserves to be embarrased and have his check posted behind the cashier for everyone to see, he does not have the right though to be a biznitch and suckerpunch someone and then backdown like a girl with his helmet still on. If the ORegon coach was 20 lbs lighter that would have been ron artest times 5.

He already gave it back to Blount - SCOREBOARD. That's enough.

[WildcatBlitz]

He should be. He showed very poor sportsmanship. Nowhere in the same league as Blount but still...what kind of message does that send? It's OK if you are the victor to kick the other side when they are down? That's pretty ****ty. Go celebrate with your team, not try to tear the other team down.

It already happens. I did it in Highschool. Blout talked so much smack before the game. He spent all of season talking about oweing them a A** whooping. The only thing the player did wrong was touch the guy. I never did that, but i sure yelled what i thought at the guy.

Sorry, but if you talk S*** you must be able to handle it when you don't walk the talk.


Note: the crowd then should not say over rated, boo, or anything negative towards the other team then. Everyone should just sit still.

[alieberman]

He should be. He showed very poor sportsmanship. Nowhere in the same league as Blount but still...what kind of message does that send? It's OK if you are the victor to kick the other side when they are down? That's pretty ****ty. Go celebrate with your team, not try to tear the other team down.

So I guess you think Blount should have been punished this summer and before the game since all Hout did was say to Blount what Blount has been saying for months?

[TheCat]

You should expect some lip if all you've been doing is running yours.

Two-way street. Blount talked trash, couldn't back it up, had trash talked back at him, couldn't handle it.

Blount started this back-n-forth of trash talk, and then couldn't let it stay just trash talking... escalating it into assault and attempted assault several times over.

I know that Oregon's QB talked trash because they mentioned it on ESPN. Have not seen the media report Blount had talked trash. Maybe he did.

Still the guy provoked him and got hit. No big deal. I don't think anyone is going to be charged with assault.

[barringer97]

He should be charged with assault.

[MountainCat]

Wait until Blount sees the replay of the game. ESPN was talking about his pre-game comments all night long. They were laughing at him and his negative yardage everytime he was on the field.

ESPN is not going to let this one go. Coach Kelly looked lost all game long........and Oregon's season is doomed.

[EastCoastCat]

Let's be fair. Hout did start it by confronting Blount after the game.

Not that it justifies Blounts boorish behavior, but the incident would have never happened if Hout didn't feel like such a bad ass minutes after a hard fought game where the losing side must have been frustrated to no end.

Couldn't Hout have done his "payback" through the media like Blount did?

[MountainCat]

Let's be fair. Hout did start it by confronting Blount after the game.

Not that it justifies Blounts boorish behavior, but the incident would have never happened if Hout didn't feel like such a bad ass minutes after a hard fought game where the losing side must have been frustrated to no end.Couldn't Hout have done his "payback" through the media like Blount did?

I don't know, I think Blount was looking for an excuse. If Hout's comment didn't do it, something else would have.

[TheCat]

He should be charged with assault.

Joke right?

[WildcatBlitz]

Joke right?

Hitting a cop can do it. It is already stated though he wont be charged.

[TheCat]

Hout didn't do anything. He just gave it back to Blount. Blount wrote a check he couldn't cash, he deserves to be embarrased and have his check posted behind the cashier for everyone to see, he does not have the right though to be a biznitch and suckerpunch someone and then backdown like a girl with his helmet still on. If the ORegon coach was 20 lbs lighter that would have been ron artest times 5.

So Hout didn't write a check he couldn't cash? He taunted the guy and got his ass whooped. This is not a big deal.

Didn't look like he was backing down to me. Looked like he wanted to get his hands on that guy. I saw no sucker punch. I say a couple of idiots who got into a fight. Only one had the good sense to keep his helmet on.

[barringer97]

Joke right?

No. You can't go around hitting people.

Dude needs to be charged.

[barringer97]

Hitting a cop can do it. It is already stated though he wont be charged.

Hout could do it, but he likely won't.

[WildcatBlitz]

So Hout didn't write a check he couldn't cash? He taunted the guy and got his ass whooped. This is not a big deal.

Didn't look like he was backing down to me. Looked like he wanted to get his hands on that guy. I saw no sucker punch. I say a couple of idiots who got into a fight. Only one had the good sense to keep his helmet on.

Actually what i saw, was a no name player getting national recognition, while another players career ending

Need an example look at Vicks younger brother.

[phenom5]

Hitting a cop can do it. It is already stated though he wont be charged.

He never hit a cop. The jackass from BSU was the only person that got hit.

It's not that I agree with, or excuse Blount in any way, but some people go overboard with this shyte.

I agree, what he did was wrong, but that BSU player kind of got what he was asking for. Is it okay to punch someone if they taunt you after a loss? No. Is there a possibility that might happen if you taunt somebody after a loss? Yes.

[TheCat]

I might have a little (and I mean very little) compassion for Blount if hitting the BSU player was his only action. It looked like he was walking away pretty dejected, and all by himself, when Hout kind of grabs him and starts giving him the business.

But then he goes ballistic with his own players, security guards and oppossing fans to the point where they need to bring out the white jacket.

That's where he went too far and deserves being dismissed from the team.

I think if he only hit the player the penalty would be less harsh then what he's going to get.

No one wants to hear Blount was by himself and had his head down when the other guy comes up to him. It is easier to focus on his actions since they were more inappropriate.

This is not a big deal.

[TheCat]

No. You can't go around hitting people.

Dude needs to be charged.


OKAY.............:lol2:

[TheCat]

Hout could do it, but he likely won't.

Unless he wants to be laughed out of college football. I bet he has been hit in practice by his own teammates harder.

[barringer97]

This is not a big deal.

Right.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2009/09/canzano_legarrette_blount_has.html

It was Boise State 19, Oregon 8. Also, it's so long to Ducks running back LeGarrette Blount, who should be kicked off the team today for what he did on Thursday at Bronco Stadium.

Blount punched Boise State's Byron Hout in the face on the field after the game. Then, Blount put a fist to the helmet of Ducks' teammate Garrett Embry, who was trying to play peacemaker. And what we have here is a low moment that can not be greeted with tolerance.

Blount left the field struggling with two police officers and two stadium security guards, and with Ducks assistant Scott Frost being towed along. There was a hostile brush with a Boise State fan, too. In the end, there was chaos and volatility all around this team, courtesy of Blount.

The Ducks running back should be arrested and charged with assault today for slugging Hout, who wasn't even looking. Also, Blount should be served up by first-year head coach Chip Kelly as a reminder of everything the program should never become.

It was cheap. It was embarrassing. It was disgusting.

[TheCat]

Actually what i saw, was a no name player getting national recognition, while another players career ending

Need an example look at Vicks younger brother.

Well if his carreer ends then there will be something to talk about. This is nothing and would not have made the news if the game was not nationally televised.

Mike Vick's brother had been in a lot of trouble before his stomping of a guy on the ground. Not hitting a guy that was advancing toward him.

[WildcatBlitz]

Well if his carreer ends then there will be something to talk about. This is nothing and would not have made the news if the game was not nationally televised.

Mike Vick's brother had been in a lot of trouble before his stomping of a guy on the ground. Not hitting a guy that was advancing toward him.

Did you not see the rest of Bounts actions?

It would have made the news, remember the miami and fia fight?

[TheCat]

Right.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2009/09/canzano_legarrette_blount_has.html

It was Boise State 19, Oregon 8. Also, it's so long to Ducks running back LeGarrette Blount, who should be kicked off the team today for what he did on Thursday at Bronco Stadium.

Blount punched Boise State's Byron Hout in the face on the field after the game. Then, Blount put a fist to the helmet of Ducks' teammate Garrett Embry, who was trying to play peacemaker. And what we have here is a low moment that can not be greeted with tolerance.

Blount left the field struggling with two police officers and two stadium security guards, and with Ducks assistant Scott Frost being towed along. There was a hostile brush with a Boise State fan, too. In the end, there was chaos and volatility all around this team, courtesy of Blount.

The Ducks running back should be arrested and charged with assault today for slugging Hout, who wasn't even looking. Also, Blount should be served up by first-year head coach Chip Kelly as a reminder of everything the program should never become.

It was cheap. It was embarrassing. It was disgusting.

Tell me how many players were thrown off these teams??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNypDGoC_8M

F'n overkill and an emotional reaction.

I have seen worse hits delivered by Az. basketball players. :lol2:

[TheCat]

Did you not see the rest of Bounts actions?

It would have made the news, remember the miami and fia fight?

Yes I linked it above......please you are trying to equate the two. Oh by the way....how many players were thrown off of those teams???

[Adam Hawes]

Kirk Herbstreit blaming it on "the video game mentality where this sort of thing is ok". :rolleyes:

[TheCat]

That is reasonable. Ban all video game I say. Makes about as much sense as ending a kids career for a simple mistake.

[AZ Golfer]

It would be fine if it ended with the punch. Suspension, etc.

However, his antics after wards deserves the boot. Doesn't matter if he is a top 10, top 5 running back. See ya.

[TheCat]

Adam....you played football. Would you like to weigh in on what happens in practice???? You think this should end a players career? Like to hear your take.

[Adam Hawes]

That is reasonable. Ban all video game I say. Makes about as much sense as ending a kids career for a simple mistake.

If this were an isolated incident I would agree that saying his career should be over would be overkill, but it's not. This isn't the first time this kid has acted like a scumbag, it won't be the last.

[NYCats]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/76321/index.html/

interview w/ Dan Patrick
Oregonian columnist Canzano says Blount must go

[BBGood4U]

Not the first time he's had issues. He admits he didn't even HEAR what the Boise State player said.

People are fed up with this stuff.
He was talking trash all week leading up to it, he's not going to get 'talked back' to?

Going after his own players, going after the crowd?


The guy sports psychologist I guess, saying that his teammates should have controlled him? More of that failure of personal responsibility.

[Itamicbomb]

Yes I linked it above......please you are trying to equate the two. Oh by the way....how many players were thrown of those teams???

31 suspended, 16 indefinite suspensions, two players thrown off FIU and one off Miami (I think). The two players thrown off of FIU were the first two were to hit someone, which was the role here played by Blount.

[Adam Hawes]

Adam....you played football. Would you like to weigh in on what happens in practice???? You think this should end a players career? Like to hear your take.


There are always going to be fights in practices, sometimes it can just be hard to turn the switch off but there is absolutely NO reason for a situation to go as far as it went last night. Yes, I do agree Hout deserves a measure of the blame here but words are words and fists are fists. People talk sh*t throughout the whole 60 minutes of EVERY SINGLE football game.

As someone else here said if it was the punch and that ended it then that's one thing but Blount has a past, he punched Hout, went on to Punch one of his own players who was trying to restrain him, THEN went after the crowd. As a coach you've got to be able to trust your players, Blount has proven himself to be untrustable.

Apples to oranges I know but if you've got a pet dog that bites someone that dog gets put down. Blount's career should be over if you ask me.

[barringer97]

Bellotti said after the game that Blount's future will be a university decision. That the athletic director and the university president will consult and make a decision on whether or not to suspend him or remove him permanently.

..........................................

Do you want this guy representing your University?

[PieceOfMeat]

I saw no sucker punch.

I've not seen an extended clip of the incident(the clip in this thread has been taken down, thanks espn), but I did see a brief clip on the actual espn channel a minute or so ago. What I saw was a guy who wasn't even looking in the direction where the moron blount was. If you're not even lookin, and some guy comes up and punches ya, that's a sucker punch to me.


1. He really gets that backpedal going once he gets that sucker punch in. Real nice technique.


People who are p*ssies and throw sucker punches almost always do that.

Suspension is more like it. Maybe half the season.


That's what I was thinking after seeing what little of the incident I've seen. The punch combined with his over the top insane reaction after the punch, and the dude's gotta sit for half the season.

[PieceOfMeat]

If this were an isolated incident I would agree that saying his career should be over would be overkill, but it's not. This isn't the first time this kid has acted like a scumbag, it won't be the last.

Yeah you have to include the guy's history(which I've been wholly unaware of until reading through some posts in this thread).

Not the first time he's had issues. He admits he didn't even HEAR what the Boise State player said.

People are fed up with this stuff.
He was talking trash all week leading up to it, he's not going to get 'talked back' to?

Going after his own players, going after the crowd?


The guy sports psychologist I guess, saying that his teammates should have controlled him? More of that failure of personal responsibility.

Rofl, he didn't even hear what the other guy said? What a f'n baby ass who can't take what he gives.

There are always going to be fights in practices, sometimes it can just be hard to turn the switch off but there is absolutely NO reason for a situation to go as far as it went last night. Yes, I do agree Hout deserves a measure of the blame here but words are words and fists are fists. People talk sh*t throughout the whole 60 minutes of EVERY SINGLE football game.


Exactly.

[WildcatBlitz]

31 suspended, 16 indefinite suspensions, two players thrown off FIU and one off Miami (I think). The two players thrown off of FIU were the first two were to hit someone, which was the role here played by Blount.

I knew some where thrown off the team. I had problem locating this information.

[TheCat]

I've not seen an extended clip of the incident(the clip in this thread has been taken down, thanks espn), but I did see a brief clip on the actual espn channel a minute or so ago. What I saw was a guy who wasn't even looking in the direction where the moron blount was. If you're not even lookin, and some guy comes up and punches ya, that's a sucker punch to me.



People who are p*ssies and throw sucker punches almost always do that.



That's what I was thinking after seeing what little of the incident I've seen. The punch combined with his over the top insane reaction after the punch, and the dude's gotta sit for half the season.

The Oregon newspaper has the longest clip I have seen. Blount had his head down and was walking away when the guy tapped his shoulder pad and started talking. In that clip you see the reaction of the BSU HC coach which was immediate ( he runs over) and which caused him to look away because his coach grabbed him.

[PieceOfMeat]

The Oregon newspaper has the longest clip I have seen. Blount had his head down and was walking away when the guy tapped his shoulder pad and started talking. In that clip you see the reaction of the BSU HC coach which was immediate ( he runs over) and which caused him to look away because his coach grabbed him.

so blount swung at the guy while the guy's coach was distracting him.

yeah, thats a sucker punch.

[TheCat]

There are always going to be fights in practices, sometimes it can just be hard to turn the switch off but there is absolutely NO reason for a situation to go as far as it went last night. Yes, I do agree Hout deserves a measure of the blame here but words are words and fists are fists. People talk sh*t throughout the whole 60 minutes of EVERY SINGLE football game.

As someone else here said if it was the punch and that ended it then that's one thing but Blount has a past, he punched Hout, went on to Punch one of his own players who was trying to restrain him, THEN went after the crowd. As a coach you've got to be able to trust your players, Blount has proven himself to be untrustable.

Apples to oranges I know but if you've got a pet dog that bites someone that dog gets put down. Blount's career should be over if you ask me.

I'm not aware of his history before this. I think I would be very hesitant to take away a good portion of a kids life because of this incident.

[WildcatBlitz]

I'm not aware of his history before this. I think I would be very hesitant to take away a good portion of a kids life because of this incident.

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2009/02/11/oregon-suspends-back-legarrette-blount/

He's a team player!

[Adam Hawes]

Blount was also kicked out of the first practice of camp this year and apparently repeatedly scolded for "extra-curricular activity after the play" in practices, which tells me he has a history of physical altercations.

Again, I would agree with you whole-heartedly TheCat were this an isolated situation, but it is clearly not. Guy is a Perriloux.

[Chicat]

I've been thinking about this incident and putting it in the context of if at Iowa the Cats were to completely throttled, and if Grigsby* were to haul off and punch an Iowa player in the face, punch his own teammate, then try to go into the stands and need to be restrained by cops and security, I think I'd want him thrown off the team.

As a fan, I wouldn't want a player like that representing the team I love and I wouldn't want anyone to be able to say that the player got off easy because we needed him to make a bowl game. The actions just bring a ton of shame to the uniform and to the school and I'd want the team to totally disassociate itself from that player and his actions.

*I'm not saying that Grigsby is at all like Blount or would ever act that way. I was just trying to come up with an Apples-to-Apples example.

[WildcatBlitz]

From Oregons President per espn

"We do not and will not tolerate the actions that were taken by our player. Oregon’s loyal fans expect and deserve better. The University of Oregon Athletics Department is reviewing the situation and will take appropriate action, reflecting the seriousness of the player’s behavior."

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/2261/statement-from-oregon-president

No mention of punishment

[TheCat]

so blount swung at the guy while the guy's coach was distracting him.

yeah, thats a sucker punch.

Happens in a split second.....watch the clip.

[catgrad97]

Boo-hoo, cry me a river. A sucker punch is NOT a simple mistake, I'm sorry.

The guy threw a punch, on the football field, in front of the entire host team's stadium and a national viewing audience. And he would have done worse to whoever got in his way if he hadn't been restrained by five cops and coaches.

Forget just punishment for a second here. Blount showed in that moment an extended lapse in poise and mental stability that will continue to cost Oregon down the road if he is allowed to ever play for the Ducks again.

Any other veteran 'Zona football fan remember Jon Peters? He was a special-teams player in 1986 who decked a Sun Devil during the opening kickoff of the rivalry game.

The incident was never shown on TV, apparently occurring out of camera range. Nevertheless, the thrown punch was so clear, so out in the open, so blatant, that Peters was not only ejected from the game but never again played college football at Arizona.

Blount wasn't trying to commit some kind of intentional foul here. He was throwing a punch to injure, and he knew he was. He should be gone (but probably won't be, since he's starting tailback at Nike U).

[AZ Golfer]

The guy is obviously a cancer and must be cut out.

[PieceOfMeat]

well said catgrad

[PieceOfMeat]

Happens in a split second.....watch the clip.


got a link?

:: hah just saw the other thread, apparently espn doesn't mind that youtube link being up? ::

Anyhow, that's still a sucker punch to me, the coach has his hands on the other player before the punch is thrown. Sucker took a swing knowing the coach was there to take care of teh bsu guy. Plus the backpeddled like a little b*tch who just threw a sucker punch

[AZ Golfer]

At the 2:16 mark when you shoves the hand of the coach off. That is the nail in the coffin imo.

[smashmode]

He was turned around because his coach had grabbed his butt.....

And? He still wasn't facing him.

[smashmode]

when Hout kind of grabs him and starts giving him the business.



lol come on man, he tapped him on the shoulder and said 'How about that ass whoppin'.

Thats normal trash talk.

[smashmode]

He should be. He showed very poor sportsmanship. Nowhere in the same league as Blount but still...what kind of message does that send? It's OK if you are the victor to kick the other side when they are down? That's pretty ****ty. Go celebrate with your team, not try to tear the other team down.

Blount deserved all of that when he opened his mouth. All he did was return the smack talk. That should have been the end of it.

[EastCoastCat]

lol come on man, he tapped him on the shoulder and said 'How about that ass whoppin'.

Thats normal trash talk.

Then let me re-phrase it for you Smashie..."he proceeded to say a couple of choice words".

Didn't mean to imply Hout gave him a verbal barrage.

[EastCoastCat]

Hitting/shoving your own teammates kind of does it for me...

[smashmode]

If Hout would have made some sensitive comments (ie, comments about family, race etc), then I would all be for Hout being punished. But a retort to Blount's comments? No way.

[WildcatBlitz]

Like Adam says, it happens every game and probably every play. If you can just hit someone for something negative said towards someone then football would never get played.

From what others have said Blount didn't even hear what he said. You lose the excuse at that point.

[EastCoastCat]

I don't feel Hout should be suspended. My point was that he started the whole thing by taunting, however short of a taunt it might have been.

[smashmode]

Blount gone for the year.

[smashmode]

Oregon moved quick to clean up the mess. Smart move honestly, now they can move forward.

[Machina]

I will agree that Hout should have let the scoreboard be enough. I agree with it 100%. But I am not going to get mad at a kid who says what he said because Blount was talking trash all summer and couldn't come through. Not saying its right at all, but we (myself and my competitive softball team, and I am not trying to compare Scottsdale B League Softball to NCAA Football) give a lot of crap back to people who talk crap first and can't cash the check their mouths write. We hardly ever start stuff but if someone comes in churping and doesn't produce, we give it back good. Thats how I see Hout's actions.

[EastCoastCat]

They had no choice really with all of the negative attention it brought upon the program.

Hope the young man gets some help.

[azcat49]

I did not see the push in the faced of his teammate. That as said would be the final blow for me. Kelly has to dismiss this guy. If not their season is lost IMO.

I thought our BBall situation was a mess but I think this is almost as bad, certainly more embarrassing

[TheCat]

Boo-hoo, cry me a river. A sucker punch is NOT a simple mistake, I'm sorry.

The guy threw a punch, on the football field, in front of the entire host team's stadium and a national viewing audience. And he would have done worse to whoever got in his way if he hadn't been restrained by five cops and coaches.

Forget just punishment for a second here. Blount showed in that moment an extended lapse in poise and mental stability that will continue to cost Oregon down the road if he is allowed to ever play for the Ducks again.

Any other veteran 'Zona football fan remember Jon Peters? He was a special-teams player in 1986 who decked a Sun Devil during the opening kickoff of the rivalry game.

The incident was never shown on TV, apparently occurring out of camera range. Nevertheless, the thrown punch was so clear, so out in the open, so blatant, that Peters was not only ejected from the game but never again played college football at Arizona.

Blount wasn't trying to commit some kind of intentional foul here. He was throwing a punch to injure, and he knew he was. He should be gone (but probably won't be, since he's starting tailback at Nike U).

Sorry I must have missed your rant against Mean Gene went he threw a blantant elbow that ended a kid's career.

Listen things happen in the heat of the battle. You want to keep a kid for playing the rest of his career...fine. Just call me more tolerant.

The NCAA rule book says he should be suspended for one game. Those are the rules. I just looked it up. Somehow they understand these things happen. If it happens a second time they are not so forgiving. Belotti should know the rule he is the head of the rules committee.

The same rule book addresses taunting which is illegal also......

[PieceOfMeat]

bye bye blount

[EastCoastCat]

I guess I am old school because trash talking was never part of any competitve sports that I played.

You did your talking on the field/court.

[phenom5]

I guess I am old school because trash talking was never part of any competitve sports that I played.

You did your talking on the field/court.

Trash talk is part of the game, at least it was in my playing days...but, if you talk **** and got beat down, you took it like a man.

And the thing that really pisses me off, you shut your mouth if you were getting your ass handed to you. I hate it when guys start pounding on their chest/ posing/ etc when they make a good play, but they're team is getting blown out.

I'm actually kind of surprised that Oregon suspended him for the year. Can't say I disagree, but I really didn't think it would happen.

I flipped on CNN, and they were talking about the punch, so I guess when there's that much bad press they had to do something.

[Phylek]

Sorry I must have missed your rant against Mean Gene went he threw a blantant elbow that ended a kid's career.

Listen things happen in the heat of the battle. You want to keep a kid for playing the rest of his career...fine. Just call me more tolerant.

The NCAA rule book says he should be suspended for one game. Those are the rules. I just looked it up. Somehow they understand these things happen. If it happens a second time they are not so forgiving. Belotti should know the rule he is the head of the rules committee.

The same rule book addresses taunting which is illegal also......

How many games does the NCAA rulebook say he should be suspended for attacking members of the crowd and being dragged off the field by 2 cops and 2 security personnel?

It seems to me that you are entirely focused on only one aspect of the incident and not recognzing that he totally lost control and was a danger to others, not just fellow players.

[beames]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2009/09/oregons_legarrette_blount_susp.html


Running back LeGarrette Blount has been suspended for the rest of the season for his actions Thursday night, ending his career at Oregon.

The suspension would remain in effect through the bowl season, if the Ducks are invited, but Blount will remain in school, on scholarship and in the football program - through any bowl games the Ducks may play in - and will practice and have access to the school's support services.


Meet next year's UFL MVP.

[TheCat]

Well.....should make Oregon easier to beat. PR move nothing more.

[smashmode]

I flipped on CNN, and they were talking about the punch, so I guess when there's that much bad press they had to do something.

There had already been talk that some of kelly's players were openly challenging his plays/calls etc.

Kelly needed to move quick to pretty much make a example and regain control of the situation.

[smashmode]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2009/09/oregons_legarrette_blount_susp.html



Meet next year's UFL MVP.


Yup. Mort's tweet:

@mortreport talking to NFL scouting buddies, punch alone forgivable but his history and attacking fans hurt him BIG!

[azgreg]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4446898

[asuhater]

Its amazing TheCat, you seem to be the only one defending this piece of garbage. He is a punk and there is no place in sports for what he did. Are you related to him or something? So its a good thing that he was held back by security of he would have ended up in the stands and then a really huge problem would have occured. I bet you dont think Michael Vick the animal torturer and murderer did anything really wrong either do you? Stop defending garbage. Garbage needs to be thrown out and thats exactly what Oregon did. Im very very surprised they did the right thing. But they actually were in between a rock and a hard place. Oregon Ducks are the equal of the 1990 Miami Hurricanes

[Merkin]

Good.


Blount's suspension includes any bowl games. Coach Chip Kelly said he will remain on scholarship.

[dc4azcats]

Good.


Blount's suspension includes any bowl games. Coach Chip Kelly said he will remain on scholarship.

So he can finish getting his degree. Sure he will. Blount is looking more and more like former Nebraska RB Lawrence Phillips.

[77HoyaCat4Ever]

+10

[MikeyMike]

i actually mostly agree with TheCat.

i didnt see the punch as a sucker punch. and if blount's only misdeed was the punch, then it wasnt such a big deal. blount definitely deserves most of the blame for the incident, but hout also deserves at least some blame for his taunting.

everything after the punch is all blount, and he definitely deserves severe punishment for those actions. i'm not sure one year is fair, seeing as it effectively ends the guy's career.

[GlobalCat]

As long as he can run the 40 in 4.4, he's a lock to be the Raiders 1st round pick

[azlax04]

I did not see the push in the faced of his teammate.

27 seconds in he pushes a teammate up high. 29 seconds in he decks his teammate.

[phenom5]

As long as he can run the 40 in 4.4, he's a lock to be the Raiders 1st round pick

And that's a worse punishment then any suspension.

[EastCoastCat]

Blount has talent. That is not part of the Raiders drafting MO...:rolleyes:

[hoops7243]

glad to see this. Embarrasing night for the Pac 10.

[Officer Craig]

Now he is going to have so much time to sit around smoke weed and wild out and get into more trouble.

Hopefully Oregon fans talk **** to him out at the bars.

[TheCat]

Its amazing TheCat, you seem to be the only one defending this piece of garbage. He is a punk and there is no place in sports for what he did. Are you related to him or something? So its a good thing that he was held back by security of he would have ended up in the stands and then a really huge problem would have occured. I bet you dont think Michael Vick the animal torturer and murderer did anything really wrong either do you? Stop defending garbage. Garbage needs to be thrown out and thats exactly what Oregon did. Im very very surprised they did the right thing. But they actually were in between a rock and a hard place. Oregon Ducks are the equal of the 1990 Miami Hurricanes

I hope you have a kid one day that takes a swing at someone and loses his career.

Michael Vick is playing football again. Michael Vick paid over $100M for his mistake and lost 2years of his prime. Site me someone that paid a higher price? Would you have done time for this conviction??? Not likely.

Garbage that needs to be thrown out. Your mom would be proud.

What he did was wrong. Does it justify being removed from the team....I don't think so. If you remove a kid for this you had better remove any player that is involved in a fraterity fight, bar fight, etc. for consistency. If that is the case there are going to be a lot less players to worry about. He is getting this punishment for one reason and it has nothing to do with the severity of his actions. He is being punished because it was televised. Had he knocked a kid out at a frat party no one would be calling for his removal from the team.

No one on this board said that Mean Gene should be removed and he ended someone's carreer with what he did. It also looks now that it was part of a history of violence. Maybe someone should have thrown that garbage out.

Smashmode, who weighted in on this thread, probably never complained when Wa. Players were charged and convicted in court for assualt (frat fight if I recall correctly) and not thrown off the team by Rick N.. Maybe he wrote the school and complained but I doubt it. Malaluga had a problem his freshman year (badly injured a kid in a frat fight) and never had another issue in college that I know off.

So if tomorrow someone loses their temper in our game and retaliates for something with a punch you can drive him out of town. I wont. This is a "teachable moment" but it is much easier and politically correct to dump someone.

I know I am in the minority here ......I am just more tolerant than you guys on the mistakes kids make.

[JMarkJohns]

i actually mostly agree with TheCat.

i didnt see the punch as a sucker punch.

How so? He waited to strike until Hout turned away from him. Hout didn't see it coming. That's a sucker punch. ***** move by Hout, but nothing said justifies Blount's reaction.

and if blount's only misdeed was the punch, then it wasnt such a big deal. blount definitely deserves most of the blame for the incident, but hout also deserves at least some blame for his taunting.

Hout should get one game. It was classless and stupid to get Blount's attention and talk trash in the manner he did it. Nothing Hout did lessens the reaction of Blount. Hout not getting any suspension doesn't mean Blount's suspension should be any lighter.

everything after the punch is all blount, and he definitely deserves severe punishment for those actions. i'm not sure one year is fair, seeing as it effectively ends the guy's career.

Blount talked crap first, then overreacted when people called him out on it. From assaulting an opponent who wasn't looking, to shoving a teammate in the head, to getting active with the fans, then trying to physically engage them, and from the constant shoving of those trying to keep him out of the stands, Blount deserves every bit of whatever those in authority gave him.

You can't base punishment on the context peripheral to the events getting punished, so his class standing should be factored in. It has no bearing on what happened, so therefore is irrelevant. He can do right by taking advantage of his scholarship, finish his degree, then focus on the draft... or just focus on the draft. Finishing his degree would go a long way to change the current opinion of him.

After the way he acted, he doesn't deserve any more chances. He blew his three strikes in one evening, and this doesn't even count his other prior indiscretions.

[PieceOfMeat]

I am just more tolerant than you guys on the mistakes kids make.

Not to go too off topic here, but I just hate it when college athletes get free passes for being "kids" who make "mistakes".

Nonsense. This "kid" is 22 years old(23 later this year). He's a man, not a kid. If this turkey does this on the street, the cops get called, he goes to jail.

22 years old is old enough to not be making these childish mistakes.

[JMarkJohns]

I know I am in the minority here ......I am just more tolerant than you guys on the mistakes kids make.

You didn't even know that Blount was the first to talk trash to media in the hype building up to this game. Blount set the stage, then couldn't handle the reactions, then overreacted, making a war of words physical, and threatening to cross the line against fans who spoke trash back at him after he assaulted one of their players.

Blount may not be trash, but his antics were complete garbage. The antics were punished both for the player who committed them and the context of the night/school. It might be unfair, but so is getting sucker punched for pointing out the scoreboard to a dumbass who said he was going to kick your ass before the game.

[JMarkJohns]

Not to go too off topic here, but I just hate it when college athletes get free passes for being "kids" who make "mistakes".

Nonsense. This "kid" is 22 years old(23 later this year). He's a man, not a kid. If this turkey does this on the street, the cops get called, he goes to jail.

22 years old is old enough to not be making these childish mistakes.

This.

[UA Direct]

What's cool...after that -5 yard fiasco, Blount is no longer a career 1,000 yard rusher at Oregon. Puts him at 997 career yards.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=378483

[Officer Craig]

What's cool...after that -5 yard fiasco, Blount is no longer a career 1,000 yard rusher at Oregon. Puts him at 997 career yards.

Great!

[TheCat]

Not to go too off topic here, but I just hate it when college athletes get free passes for being "kids" who make "mistakes".

Nonsense. This "kid" is 22 years old(23 later this year). He's a man, not a kid. If this turkey does this on the street, the cops get called, he goes to jail.

22 years old is old enough to not be making these childish mistakes.

I have been in worse fights that that on 4th ave and no one went to jail. It certainly didn't end anyone's career........

If you hate it on TV then hate it when it occurs at a frat party and we will agree. Selective punishment bothers me........

[JMarkJohns]

I have been in worse fights that that on 4th ave and no one went to jail. It certainly didn't end anyone's career........

If you hate it on TV then hate it when it occurs at a frat party and we will agree. Selective punishment bothers me........

Drunk idiots who punch people should be charged with assault same as any other idiot who clobbers someone for little to no reason.

[PieceOfMeat]

I have been in worse fights that that on 4th ave and no one went to jail. It certainly didn't end anyone's career........

If you hate it on TV then hate it when it occurs at a frat party and we will agree. Selective punishment bothers me........

Well good for you, I guess you got nice cops. I've seen people go to jail for 1 punch. As for this ending his "career" stuff, please, he still has a chance to go on and play pro ball somewhere. Also, if he didn't want his career ended, he could have taken the hint from his previous scuffs that this wasn't something he should be doing. He should have not struck one of his own teammates who was holding him back, he shouldn't have had to be held back like a wild beast at all. This is all on him. He talked smack, then didnt like it when someone did it back to him, then acted like a moron and got punished like one.

As for the frat party thing, you keep wanting to harp on that, but I don't know why. If someone on our team sucker punched someone at a frat party, I think he should be brought up on assault charges and appropriate actions taken as far as suspensions as well. I thought 6 games would have been enough, but I don't have a problem with the year long suspension. He can still work out and practice with the team, he can still get a degree, he can still enter the draft etc etc etc.

[TheCat]

You didn't even know that Blount was the first to talk trash to media in the hype building up to this game. Blount set the stage, then couldn't handle the reactions, then overreacted, making a war of words physical, and threatening to cross the line against fans who spoke trash back at him after he assaulted one of their players.

Blount may not be trash, but his antics were complete garbage. The antics were punished both for the player who committed them and the context of the night/school. It might be unfair, but so is getting sucker punched for pointing out the scoreboard to a dumbass who said he was going to kick your ass before the game.


You have a link to his trash talking in the media? I know the QB did because it was reported on ESPN during the game. I haven't seen it so I don't just report what folks say. He may have....I just haven't seen it but I trust you have.

Let's not forget the guy that "only talked trash" also grabbed him enough that his coach reacted to it.

The guy that grabbed him was gloating and pushing his face into it. He hit him a glancing blow for it and has lost his career. Satisfied?

Seems fair to me.......no one hurt.....make a stupid mistake and lose what you have worked a minimum of 8 years to accomplish. Why not.......it is easy, the press will be good, the kid will be the only one hurt and we will look tough in the papers. All f'n PR and you know it.

[TheCat]

Well good for you, I guess you got nice cops. I've seen people go to jail for 1 punch. As for this ending his "career" stuff, please, he still has a chance to go on and play pro ball somewhere. Also, if he didn't want his career ended, he could have taken the hint from his previous scuffs that this wasn't something he should be doing. He should have not struck one of his own teammates who was holding him back, he shouldn't have had to be held back like a wild beast at all. This is all on him. He talked smack, then didnt like it when someone did it back to him, then acted like a moron and got punished like one.

As for the frat party thing, you keep wanting to harp on that, but I don't know why. If someone on our team sucker punched someone at a frat party, I think he should be brought up on assault charges and appropriate actions taken as far as suspensions as well. I thought 6 games would have been enough, but I don't have a problem with the year long suspension. He can still work out and practice with the team, he can still get a degree, he can still enter the draft etc etc etc.

Great. He was barely punished for taking one swing.......haha

Punishment doesn't fit the crime period......why not give him the NCAA punishment for it like most players get?

NCAA covers the punishment for this action in the rule book. This is what he would have gotten if this game wasn't on television on a national broadcast.

So POM I must have missed it when you called for Jordan Hill's suspension or being booted off the team for assault last year. He was charged right? My bad.....I'll go find your post.....

I assume you want the same punishment for all. His reaction was so bad the cops tasered him. I assume you found that behavior equally as bad since the cops couldn't even stop him???? Have Officer Craig tell you the guidelines required to use "neuromuscular incapacitation" on someone.

[Itamicbomb]

You have a link to his trash talking in the media? I know the QB did because it was reported on ESPN during the game. I haven't seen it so I don't just report what folks say. He may have....I just haven't seen it but I trust you have.

Let's not forget the guy that "only talked trash" also grabbed him enough that his coach reacted to it.

The guy that grabbed him was gloating and pushing his face into it. He hit him a glancing blow for it and has lost his career. Satisfied?

Seems fair to me.......no one hurt.....make a stupid mistake and lose what you have worked a minimum of 8 years to accomplish. Why not.......it is easy, the press will be good, the kid will be the only one hurt and we will look tough in the papers. All f'n PR and you know it.

Have you ever considered that taking football away for a significant period of time might actually force this kid to take a look at who he is and make changes? With his attitude, he was never going to amount to anything in the NFL as is, so they're more likely saving his career than gutting it.

[JMarkJohns]

You have a link to his trash talking in the media? I know the QB did because it was reported on ESPN during the game. I haven't seen it so I don't just report what folks say. He may have....I just haven't seen it but I trust you have.

Let's not forget the guy that "only talked trash" also grabbed him enough that his coach reacted to it.

The guy that grabbed him was gloating and pushing his face into it. He hit him a glancing blow for it and has lost his career. Satisfied?

Seems fair to me.......no one hurt.....make a stupid mistake and lose what you have worked a minimum of 8 years to accomplish. Why not.......it is easy, the press will be good, the kid will be the only one hurt and we will look tough in the papers. All f'n PR and you know it.

I'm not doing your homework for you. I read about it for the last few days, and the crew discussed the comments in detail often throughout the broadcast.

And Hoat didn't grab him. He tapped his shoulder harmlessly once, then reportedly asked, "How 'bout that ass-kicking?" referring to Blount's trash talking from the weeks/days building up to the game.

And the punch wasn't a glancing blow. Did you even watch the game/video? He hit him square on the jaw, with a round-house/uppercut angle. CLEAN ON THE JAW...

If knocking back an opposing player, then punching your own teammate, then going into a blind rage and having to be restrained by five or six people to keep you from attacking fans in the stands, on a nationally televised game, with the Pac-10 commissioner in attendance, in the new coach's first game, after being suspended during the summer for missing workouts and getting kicked out of practices for poor behavior, can't get you kicked off the Oregon football team, then that must be a program with absolutely zero discipline, character, or self-respect.

Educate yourself and quit citing your own examples. Your life's context has no bearing on this game's reality. Blount may just be a good kid gone berserk, doing several incredibly stupid things, but such doesn't erase that he's CLEARLY been a huge issue for Oregon thus far and his latest antics crossed/attempted to cross every line imaginable.

[PieceOfMeat]

Great. He was barely punished for taking one swing.......

Punishment doesn't fit the crime period......why not give him the NCAA punishment for it like most players get?

NCAA covers the punishment for this action in the rule book. This is what he would have gotten if this game wasn't on television on a national broadcast.

He swung at more than 1 person. Not to mention his having to be held back by 4 or 5 people to keep from swinging at more people. You seem to want to forget everything but the 1 suckerpunch on the bsu guy.

As for the punishment, like I said, I don't have a problem with the year long. I had originally thought 6 games would be punitive enough, based on all of his antics after the 1 punch, but if Oregon wants to be harsher, that's their option. If they would have just said "well we're going to go with the ncaa minimum" that also would have been within their options, though I would have felt it a bit light.

Again, I'm sick and tired of college athletes getting passes as "kids" who make "mistakes". If I went into my place of work tomorrow, and punched someone, would I be allowed to keep working there? If I walked across the street and punched out someone at a rival company, then swung at one of m y coworkers who held me back, would I allowed to keep working at my place of employment? No, I wouldn't.

This guy is a 22(almost 23) year old punk, and got punished like one.

[Olson Court]

I dont know much about Blount, was he a player of note for Oregon, star status?

What an ass though. The guy he hit was talking some serious **** it looked like but still, you cant just tag a guy like that lol.

I know more about James and think he is better than Blount anyway.

[PieceOfMeat]

Have you ever considered that taking football away for a significant period of time might actually force this kid to take a look at who he is and make changes? With his attitude, he was never going to amount to anything in the NFL as is, so they're more likely saving his career than gutting it.

I agree, maybe this will make the guy change.

But I doubt it.

[scumdevils86]

Ps-Their career is being a "student" right now. Not a football player.

[Olson Court]

Wasnt he kicked off the team before and what did he do that time? Is he a senior?

[Embrodak]

i actually mostly agree with TheCat.


and TheCat's signature just got bigger.

[JMarkJohns]

I dont know much about Blount, was he a player of note for Oregon, star status?

What an ass though. The guy he hit was talking some serious **** it looked like but still, you cant just tag a guy like that lol.

I know more about James and think he is better than Blount anyway.

I don't want to be an ass, but why are you posting? You don't know anything about Blount and claim Hout was talking serious ****. Hout said one line in passing to Blount, turned and got leveled. One line is talking serious ****?

I think of Gary Payton when I think of a player talking serious **** - in your face, unrelenting, got-your-goat razzing type... Not a very brief one-liner as you turn and walk away.

[WildcatBlitz]

The Cat has not talked about any incident afterwards. I have brought it up and he skips it. We already admitted that if he ONLY hit the person then a couple game suspension is fine but everything aftwards shows that he CAN NOT control himself.

Of course thecat will try to spin this around and wont admit he is wrong.

[JMarkJohns]

The Cat has not talked about any incident afterwards. I have brought it up and he skips it. We already admitted that if he ONLY hit the person then a couple game suspension is fine but everything aftwards shows that he CAN NOT control himself.

Of course thecat will try to spin this around and wont admit he is wrong.

yep

[IH8ASSU]

He without a doubt deserved to be suspended for the rest of the season. As much as I dislike Oregon, they got this right.

[WildcatBlitz]

I have been in worse fights that that on 4th ave and no one went to jail. It certainly didn't end anyone's career........

If you hate it on TV then hate it when it occurs at a frat party and we will agree. Selective punishment bothers me........

So did this "epic" fight, start from you not hearing what someone might have said? Did you hit the guy and run away? While walking away did you go after pedestrians that might have said that was stupid? Did it take 4-5 cops/security officers and friends to keep you from attacking them? Did you hit your friend?

Just curious if your relating your fight with his, if you did any of this also. even though you wont admit it, it did happen with Blount.

I'm tired arguing this when you wont even admit to EVERYTHING after the punch. He didn't get suspended for the whole year becuase the punch.

Note: FIA and Miami has players kicked off their teams completely after their big fight. So, this isn't some new case. Even someone brought up about UofA player that HIT an ASU player OFF CAMERA, NOT TELEVISED, and he was off the team. So drop the national t.v. c***.

[Olson Court]

I don't want to be an ass, but why are you posting? You don't know anything about Blount and claim Hout was talking serious ****. Hout said one line in passing to Blount, turned and got leveled. One line is talking serious ****?

I think of Gary Payton when I think of a player talking serious **** - in your face, unrelenting, got-your-goat razzing type... Not a very brief one-liner as you turn and walk away.

Dude chill I am not defending what he did at all, I just mentioned that I saw the other guy sort of lean towards him and say something then he punched him. Obviously he deserves to be suspended for the year no doubt.

I was wondering if he will lose elgibility for this year.

And from what I just read Blount was saying all week that the ducks owned BS an asswhooping from last time they lost to them so Hout came up after the game and said now you owe us two asswhoopings, so yea I would say thats talking serious **** but DOESNT IN ANYWAY justify a sucker punch.


The big question is since he is a senior will he lose all elgibility now?

[smashmode]

The Cat has not talked about any incident afterwards. I have brought it up and he skips it. We already admitted that if he ONLY hit the person then a couple game suspension is fine but everything aftwards shows that he CAN NOT control himself.

Of course thecat will try to spin this around and wont admit he is wrong.

only talking about the punch allows him to take the stance that blount really did not do anything wrong.

[JMarkJohns]

Dude chill I am not defending what he did at all, I just mentioned that I saw the other guy sort of lean towards him and say something then he punched him. Obviously he deserves to be suspended for the year no doubt.

I was wondering if he will lose elgibility for this year.

Fair enough... after arguing well broadcasted facts with TheCat, I was just annoyed at the exaggerated response of Hout's part. He clearly holds some responsibility, and should have been punished, but he tapped Blount on the shoulder pad once, then said one line, turned and gets leveled.

So "talking serious ****" was just something that irked me... especially with your qualifying comment about not knowing much about Blount earlier...

[TheCat]

Fair enough... after arguing well broadcasted facts with TheCat, I was just annoyed at the exaggerated response of Hout's part. He clearly holds some responsibility, and should have been punished, but he tapped Blount on the shoulder pad once, then said one line, turned and gets leveled.

So "talking serious ****" was just something that irked me... especially with your qualifying comment about not knowing much about Blount earlier...


Unless I am mistaken.....don't have the game on tape..... but the guy the broadcasters said made the comment about the ass whoppin was the QB not Blount.

Maybe you are talking about something I missed.

[Olson Court]

Fair enough... after arguing well broadcasted facts with TheCat, I was just annoyed at the exaggerated response of Hout's part. He clearly holds some responsibility, and should have been punished, but he tapped Blount on the shoulder pad once, then said one line, turned and gets leveled.

So "talking serious ****" was just something that irked me... especially with your qualifying comment about not knowing much about Blount earlier...

No problem. I didnt know Blount was a hot head, I knew was a decent back but wasnt aware of his past attitude problems.

I just watched the video several and I dont want to piss you off further but that BS player looks like he is really flapping his gums and even his coach is telling him to knock it off before Blount throws the punch. Still doesnt make it right but Hout looks like an ******* to me from what I am seeing.

[Olson Court]

ESPN just said he was rated 56th in the draft and would have been the 2nd RB to be drafted. They also said he will continue to go to class and PRACTICE with the team. I think they also mentioned Hout will be discplined.

[WildcatBlitz]

ESPN just said he was rated 56th in the draft and would have been the 2nd RB to be drafted. They also said he will continue to go to class and PRACTICE with the team. I think they also mentioned Hout will be discplined.

The coach for Boise St. Already stated he will not be suspended. So who know what will actually happen.

[TheCat]

ESPN just said he was rated 56th in the draft and would have been the 2nd RB to be drafted. They also said he will continue to go to class and PRACTICE with the team. I think they also mentioned Hout will be discplined.


Not according to his coach earlier.....said he would talk to him (Hout).

[azlax04]

http://i32.tinypic.com/2wh1ro8.jpg

[smashmode]

Unless I am mistaken.....don't have the game on tape..... but the guy the broadcasters said made the comment about the ass whoppin was the QB not Blount.

Maybe you are talking about something I missed.

Since you refuse to do any research yourself:

http://wap.yahoo.com/w/ysportshome/home/experts/article?offset=2&urn=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Crivals%3A2005030 1%3Ancaaf%2Carticle%2Crivals-317416%3A1&_ts=1251958879&_intl=us&_lang=en&_ym=1

"We owe that team an ass-whuppin." - Oregon RB LeGarrette Blount about Boise State, to Sports Illustrated early this summer.

[smashmode]

ESPN just said he was rated 56th in the draft and would have been the 2nd RB to be drafted. They also said he will continue to go to class and PRACTICE with the team. I think they also mentioned Hout will be discplined.

He went from 2nd to 3rd and now to undraftable, he also did not show up for class today.

And like someone else mentioned, hout will not be punished.

[WildcatBlitz]

Since you refuse to do any research yourself:

http://wap.yahoo.com/w/ysportshome/home/experts/article?offset=2&urn=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Crivals%3A2005030 1%3Ancaaf%2Carticle%2Crivals-317416%3A1&_ts=1251958879&_intl=us&_lang=en&_ym=1

Don't expect a response from thecat. he still has yet to acknowledge anything else that defeats his views.

It doesn't take much to say I am wrong

[Itamicbomb]

Not according to his coach earlier.....said he would talk to him (Hout).

He will be disciplined, but not suspended.

[Zona_Soccer10]

Big blow to Oregon's program. Good for other PAC-10 schools though. Blount was a beast last year.

[TheCat]

Well....this was fun. I don't agree with the punishment. If you do then you should have wanted Jordan Hill booted after he assulted someone and wouldn't stop until Tased by the cops. Not sure I heard anyone calling for his head. When Mean Gene ended a kids career (he never played competitive basketball again) I missed the outcry.

Everyone should get the same punishment for the same crime. Selective punishment bothers me. The Miami / FUI brawl was much worse (not comparable) and most of the players were suspended one game (31 players). Two players from FIU were removed from the team. One was for kicking a guy in the head while he was on the ground. Miami did not throw anyone off the team.

I can link numerous college games in football and basketball where kids could have reacted better. Most lived to grow up and act more responsible and prove themselves (see Mean Gene). I understand most of you think this was serious enough to be removed from the team. I think he made a stupid mistake and should have paid the same price as anyone else that plays in the NCAA's would have had to.

I hope an incident like this doesn't happen again. Especially to the Cats.

[JMarkJohns]

Unless I am mistaken...

You are.

but the guy the broadcasters said made the comment about the ass whoppin was the QB not Blount.

Wrong. Blount said Oregon owed Boise and ass-whoopin' because of a helmet-to-helmet hit to Masoli, that knocked him out of the eventual upset loss to BSU last season.

I'm not going to bother recapping just how uneducated you've been this entire time, nor just how wrong you've been based off your own misinformation, but it's been a half a day and I cannot believe someone so passionate about the topic has failed over and over to get the facts right. You've really made yourself the jackass, not by having a differing opinion, but by basing it upon bias and bad information over doing a little research and rewatching the entire event.

[TheCat]

He will be disciplined, but not suspended.

From SI:

Hout won't be suspended for taunting Blount. Boise State spokesman Max Corbet told The Associated Press in an e-mail that Petersen planned to spend time with Hout this week to help him learn from what happened.

That fits the crime. They are called "teachable moments". Not sure it qualifies as discipline though.

[TucsonDon]

I would've suspended him indefinitely. I don't have a problem with the decision but I would've left it open-ended and dealt with it when the thing wasn't such a hot topic. Put the kid through hell, make him earn it, leave it up to him; if he wanted it bad enough he'd jump through all the hoops and you'd have made him a better person which is what this should be about in the end anyways.

As for the prick on Boise, I'm glad his moment in the sun for the entirety of his life will be getting knocked in the face on national TV and looking like a moron. He earned that embarrassment even though I don't think physical violence is the answer to that kind of immaturity. I'm sure 80% of the Boise team was taunting someone from Oregon last night (and vice versa) so suspending him for basically getting caught (and taunting the wrong dude) is a little disingenuous.

[TheCat]

You are.



Wrong. Blount said Oregon owed Boise and ass-whoopin' because of a helmet-to-helmet hit to Masoli, that knocked him out of the eventual upset loss to BSU last season.

I'm not going to bother recapping just how uneducated you've been this entire time, nor just how wrong you've been based off your own misinformation, but it's been a half a day and I cannot believe someone so passionate about the topic has failed over and over to get the facts right. You've really made yourself the jackass, not by having a differing opinion, but by basing it upon bias and bad information over doing a little research and rewatching the entire event.

I didn't know he said that. Smashmode provided a link and I read it. If that makes me uneducated so be it. I looked for it and found 9 million post about last night.

What I'm passionate about is not the life of Blount or his action on this particular night. What I'm passionate about is second chances for folks to prove themselves and equal treatment. I don't think Blount got those considerations. You do. You found his actions so disturbing that you felt he threw away all he worked for in the last 8 years. I found he made a stupid error in judgement and that he should be punished but not removed from his team. Maybe that makes me a jackass.........

You obviously feel this very personally for some reason. I have always respected you as a poster and appreciated your NBA knowledge. There is no right answer here. We cannot know what good or bad Mr. Blount may have done if he was allowed to stay on the team. That is behind him now. Maybe like our Duke friend said this will be a turning point in his life for the good. I hope it is and I hope he is successful in overcoming this issue.

He made a mistake.........we just disagree whether the price he paid for it was a just one.

[JMarkJohns]

I didn't know he said that. Smashmode provided a link and I read it. If that makes me uneducated so be it. I looked for it and found 9 million post about last night.

I searched and found it a link from the Oregonian within two minutes. Like I had said before, the commentators mentioned Blount's smack about a half-dozen times throughout last night's broadcast.

What I'm passionate about is not the life of Blount or his action on this particular night. What I'm passionate about is second chances for folks to prove themselves and equal treatment. I don't think Blount got those considerations. You do. You found his actions so disturbing that you felt he threw away all he worked for in the last 8 years. I found he made a stupid error in judgement and that he should be punished but not removed from his team. Maybe that makes me a jackass.........

You obviously feel this very personally for some reason. I have always respected you as a poster and appreciated your NBA knowledge. There is no right answer here. We cannot know what good or bad Mr. Blount may have done if he was allowed to stay on the team. That is behind him now. Maybe like our Duke friend said this will be a turning point in his life for the good. I hope it is and I hope he is successful in overcoming this issue.

He made a mistake.........we just disagree whether the price he paid for it was a just one.

I don't have an issue with anyone thinking a season-long suspension for one mistake is excessive. It would be, unless that mistake was unthinkable. However, this suspension has a bigger context. It wasn't one mistake, it was several, and it was his first round of several mistakes. With a brand new coach and Pac-10 Commissioner, I expected something like this as each needed to establish credibility and re-establish the line Blount crossed, then blurred in his multiple scuffles.

A slap on the wrist is practically a free pass. The punishment needed to be a bit excessive to send a strong message. It sucks he had to make so many mistakes that he is arguably deserving of such a strong message being sent.

[ice]

I think Blount got too big a punishment. A year for punching is a bit too much. He definitely deserves to get suspended, but he doesn't deserve to have his collegiate career taken away from him.

Also, that Boise State player should definitely be suspended for a game. He went out of his way to taunt Blount, even grabbing his shoulder. Petersen is sending a bad signal by not punishing a player that really acted quite poorly.

[JMarkJohns]

I think Blount got too big a punishment. A year for punching is a bit too much. He definitely deserves to get suspended, but he doesn't deserve to have his collegiate career taken away from him.

Also, that Boise State player should definitely be suspended for a game. He went out of his way to taunt Blount, even grabbing his shoulder. Petersen is sending a bad signal by not punishing a player that really acted quite poorly.

Did people just turn their TV off after the punch landed? The kid went crazy on national TV, punching a teammate, charging at fans, shoving off guards and policemen... all after already being in trouble with the team throughout most of the offseason.

The kid got suspended for the punch. He got suspended for the season because of everything else.

[TheCat]

I saw him running around. No doubt he was out of control.

[AZfootball18]

This wasn't the first time he has done this kind of thing either.

[EastCoastCat]

I think Chip Kelly is handling the situation very well...much better than his offense at the moment.

http://www.kval.com/news/57345972.html

[Jason Scheer]

You realize that he has pretty much been kicked off the team twice before? That he punched a teammate in the face? That he pushed a cop? That he went after somebody in the stands?

You seriously think a year was too much? I'm wondering why he has a scholarship when there are kids out there that deserve it more than him. My guess is because Kelly thinks if he takes it away Blount will kill somebody

[Machina]

Hout was a jerk but did nothing to get suspended

Blount would have gotten suspended for 2 or 3 games had it just been the punch IMO. But since he tried to go Ron Artest and shoved and punched his teammates, coaches and cops, he got what he deserved, IMO.

If I were him, I would leave school and join the UFL. They need players and there I don't think it would hurt the league at all, since it is a start up league that will be shown on VS.

[EastCoastCat]

You realize that he has pretty much been kicked off the team twice before? That he punched a teammate in the face? That he pushed a cop? That he went after somebody in the stands?

You seriously think a year was too much? I'm wondering why he has a scholarship when there are kids out there that deserve it more than him. My guess is because Kelly thinks if he takes it away Blount will kill somebody

I understand this wasn't an isolated event and I feel the year suspension is justified...don't know where you thought I said otherwise.

I think the kid has some serious problems and needs help. That's why I like the fact that Kelly is trying to help him out by giving him the chance to graduate and, hopefully, turn his life around.

It's just 1 year and football has many scholarships. I just see a coach and a school trying to help a kid out.

[Titan]

For a little levity, I thought this was a pretty funny take on Blount from a poster named MIst8fan on the ESPN article concerning the suspension:


Does this mean he has to turn in all four jerseys, three helmets, four pants, six pair of shoes, 12 matching arm bands, 16 belts, 42 pairs of gloves...

[Bison79]

A year? They're doing something right in Oregon at least. At the very minimum his suspension should be a year.

No clue why Hout should receive any type of punishment. If you punish him, you need to punish every other player who opens his mouth on the field, which is pretty much every other player on the field in any given game and touching someone's shoulder pads is a hell of a long way from sucker punching them like a little *****. Players get more rough than necessary many times and at the worst there's a unsportsmanlike conduct call.

No, Blount just needs to do what I said in another thread, grow a set of nuts and grow up.

[ice]

Hout was a jerk but did nothing to get suspended

Blount would have gotten suspended for 2 or 3 games had it just been the punch IMO. But since he tried to go Ron Artest and shoved and punched his teammates, coaches and cops, he got what he deserved, IMO.

If I were him, I would leave school and join the UFL. They need players and there I don't think it would hurt the league at all, since it is a start up league that will be shown on VS.

I agree that Blount should join the UFL. Not a bad idea at all, he could play right away and make cash doing it.

But I completely disagree that Hout did nothing to get suspended. He's the guy who started it. If Hout did nothing, Blount would be preparing for a game next week. And Hout was clearly looking for a problem. He grabbed Blount and started talking sh*t, and it was clear from his own coach's reaction that what he was saying was not appropriate. It's a bad example to not suspend Hout.

Also, I'd really like to know what Hout said specifically. It's clear it wasn't something nice, but I'd like to know the extent of it. Completely low class to talk sh*t after a win. Also, very low class of Blount obviously, and what he did was worse, but it's ridiculous that Hout is only getting "internal punishment."

[illcat]

I don't want to be an ass, but why are you posting? You don't know anything about Blount and claim Hout was talking serious ****. Hout said one line in passing to Blount, turned and got leveled. One line is talking serious ****?

I think of Gary Payton when I think of a player talking serious **** - in your face, unrelenting, got-your-goat razzing type... Not a very brief one-liner as you turn and walk away.


You got that right, when Arizona would play Oregon State man I would sit there and hope some Arizona player would knock Payton on his a$$. He was constantly running off with the mouth and he could back it up with his play which was even more infuriating.............:)

Never talk trash in a bar and invite someone outside and then let them go out first. They will tag you every time.....:)

Blount deserves what he got. Going after your own teammates the fans, then the cops. Not to mention punching an opposing player rather he deserved it or not is not an issue. I would say that the man has an anger management problem.

[Olson Court]

I hope you have a kid one day that takes a swing at someone and loses his career.

Michael Vick is playing football again. Michael Vick paid over $100M for his mistake and lost 2years of his prime. Site me someone that paid a higher price? Would you have done time for this conviction??? Not likely.

Garbage that needs to be thrown out. Your mom would be proud.

What he did was wrong. Does it justify being removed from the team....I don't think so. If you remove a kid for this you had better remove any player that is involved in a fraterity fight, bar fight, etc. for consistency. If that is the case there are going to be a lot less players to worry about. He is getting this punishment for one reason and it has nothing to do with the severity of his actions. He is being punished because it was televised. Had he knocked a kid out at a frat party no one would be calling for his removal from the team.

No one on this board said that Mean Gene should be removed and he ended someone's carreer with what he did. It also looks now that it was part of a history of violence. Maybe someone should have thrown that garbage out.

Smashmode, who weighted in on this thread, probably never complained when Wa. Players were charged and convicted in court for assualt (frat fight if I recall correctly) and not thrown off the team by Rick N.. Maybe he wrote the school and complained but I doubt it. Malaluga had a problem his freshman year (badly injured a kid in a frat fight) and never had another issue in college that I know off.

So if tomorrow someone loses their temper in our game and retaliates for something with a punch you can drive him out of town. I wont. This is a "teachable moment" but it is much easier and politically correct to dump someone.

I know I am in the minority here ......I am just more tolerant than you guys on the mistakes kids make.


Very well said.

[EastCoastCat]

Why has it become acceptable for players to talk ****? Just because everyone does it doesn't make it right.

The mugging, gestures and all around trash talking devalues the game.

[Machina]

But I completely disagree that Hout did nothing to get suspended. He's the guy who started it. If Hout did nothing, Blount would be preparing for a game next week. And Hout was clearly looking for a problem. He grabbed Blount and started talking sh*t, and it was clear from his own coach's reaction that what he was saying was not appropriate. It's a bad example to not suspend Hout.

We can agree to disagree. But I do not think Hout grabbed him, just tapped him on the pads. For me though, you need to take into consideration that Blount was running his mouth ALL SUMMER about how BSU is going to get an @$$whooping. Had Blount not said anything to anyone all game and then Hout talked trash to him, I would be more upset with Hout, but since Blount acted the fool and talked trash ALL SUMMER LONG, then I don't blame Hout for giving it back a little bit.

[cactuscat62]

Why has it become acceptable for players to talk ****? Just because everyone does it doesn't make it right.

The mugging, gestures and all around trash talking devalues the game.

I know at the high school level it's absolutely frowned upon. We don't tolerate it all.

We mention this to the captains during the coin flip, and we ask them to help us police up their teammates.

If we hear/see it on the field...and depending how bad that player conducted himself. We normally just give the player a stern warning, and the next mishap for anyone else on the team will result in a 15 yd. unsportsman like penalty.

You really have to send a strong message to these kids early in the contest that this type of behavior will not be tolerated.

If you hit them with penalties...believe me they will learn.

[smashmode]

I
But I completely disagree that Hout did nothing to get suspended. He's the guy who started it. If Hout did nothing, Blount would be preparing for a game next week.


Lol. Blount started it. Blount was looking for a reason to pop off, hell, Blount even said he didn't even hear what the guy said. That should tell you something.

He grabbed Blount and started talking sh*t

Your definition of 'grab' must be different from the rest of the world.

[Merkin]

Lol. Blount started it. Blount was looking for a reason to pop off,

For sure. Watching the extended video he was even going off on his own teammates when the game was over. He had already snapped.

[smashmode]

Well....this was fun. I don't agree with the punishment. If you do then you should have wanted Jordan Hill booted after he assulted someone and wouldn't stop until Tased by the cops. Not sure I heard anyone calling for his head. When Mean Gene ended a kids career (he never played competitive basketball again) I missed the outcry.

Everyone should get the same punishment for the same crime. Selective punishment bothers me. The Miami / FUI brawl was much worse (not comparable) and most of the players were suspended one game (31 players). Two players from FIU were removed from the team. One was for kicking a guy in the head while he was on the ground. Miami did not throw anyone off the team.



Are you purposely dismissing him going after his own teammates/fans/security? Are you refusing to see that?

Its NOT the same punishment, because its NOT the same crime. Jesus f*ck.

[scumdevils86]

Doesn't take much to annoy smashie...so you must be pretty f*cking stupid thecat.

[smashmode]

For sure. Watching the extended video he was even going off on his own teammates when the game was over. He had already snapped.

and him falling back, flexing his arms you could tell he wanted to fight.

[Merkin]

and him falling back, flexing his arms you could tell he wanted to fight.

And dancing like Rocky!


Are you purposely dismissing him going after his own teammates/fans/security? Are you refusing to see that?

Its NOT the same punishment, because its NOT the same crime. Jesus f*ck.

Besides the fact one happened on the playing field under a school sanctioned event.

[TheCat]

Doesn't take much to annoy smashie...so you must be pretty f*cking stupid thecat.


Way to show your intelligence. I just disagree that he should be off the team. It isn't personal but you seem to want to make it that. Carry on genius.:lol2::lol2:

[TheCat]

Are you purposely dismissing him going after his own teammates/fans/security? Are you refusing to see that?

Its NOT the same punishment, because its NOT the same crime. Jesus f*ck.

Smashie,

Maybe you are ignorant of your own history with these kind of matters. Maybe you just chose to ignore them. Maybe you didn't realize your coach's stand of "we don't give up on players". Yes I know this player didn't throw a punch on National TV....or act out of control....but you judge.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004147460_rbstevens270.html

[TheCat]

And dancing like Rocky!




Besides the fact one happened on the playing field under a school sanctioned event.


Bad behavior is bad behavior. Doesn't really matter where it occurred.

He demonstrated bad behavior...lack of judgement....disregard of teammates....violation of NCAA rules........ no one is excusing his behavior.

(oh and bad dancing).

[azlax04]

Keep digging.

You're almost there.

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[TheCat]

Keep digging.

You're almost there.

http://i31.tinypic.com/34o91qg.jpgThere is no hole to dig. I just disagree with the punishment and am just trying to point out every school has had players that didn't always show good judgement on or off the field. Most of those players were not thrown off of their team and it seems a bit hypiicritical to me that their fans argue Blount should have been dismissed when their own players mistakes have been as bad or worse without punishment.

Aziona has had players that did not always live up to the standard we had hoped. I didn't want them removed from the team. I wanted the coaches to work with them and embrace their role as educators. Maybe that is asking to much.

2nd, 3rd and even 4th chances I believe are warranted when it comes to college kids. Writing them off is easy and quick but doesn't really help anyone. Others feel different. I get it.

[GlobalCat]

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[Winger]

I am with TheCat, especially since Blount's coach and AD sold him out to Scott as a sacrificial lamb after the game.

[Reydituto]

Well....this was fun. I don't agree with the punishment. If you do then you should have wanted Jordan Hill booted after he assulted someone and wouldn't stop until Tased by the cops. Not sure I heard anyone calling for his head. When Mean Gene ended a kids career (he never played competitive basketball again) I missed the outcry.

Everyone should get the same punishment for the same crime. Selective punishment bothers me. The Miami / FUI brawl was much worse (not comparable) and most of the players were suspended one game (31 players). Two players from FIU were removed from the team. One was for kicking a guy in the head while he was on the ground. Miami did not throw anyone off the team.

I can link numerous college games in football and basketball where kids could have reacted better. Most lived to grow up and act more responsible and prove themselves (see Mean Gene). I understand most of you think this was serious enough to be removed from the team. I think he made a stupid mistake and should have paid the same price as anyone else that plays in the NCAA's would have had to.

I hope an incident like this doesn't happen again. Especially to the Cats.

Timing and context matter.

Gene's elbow was in the heat of a game setting. It was inexcusable, and if GOAZCATS had been around back then and I was posting, you would have seen how embarrassed I was about it, but saying you "missed the outcry", effectively calling out people on here for not being up in arms about it is ridiculous, because you have no clue whether they were or not.

Jordan Hill was at a party, and nowhere near a game surface or event. Charges against Hill were dropped BTW, which is the law's way of saying a crime didn't really happen or be proven.

Blount did this AFTER the game was over. Not only did he punch someone - that would only have merited a few games - but it was the going after fans, teammates, security personnel, the totality of the circumstances that merited his punishment. He did this right after the game ended, in a setting that's supposed to be sporting, yet where one's actions are not excused by the "heat of the battle" because the battle is (supposed to be) over.

This was not selective punishment. Anyone else who did ALL of what Blount did, not just the punch, should/would get the same treatment. He'll still get the chance to make a team in the NFL, providing he rehabs his image a bit by staying in school, so it's not like his sports career is definitively over.

Did people just turn their TV off after the punch landed? The kid went crazy on national TV, punching a teammate, charging at fans, shoving off guards and policemen... all after already being in trouble with the team throughout most of the offseason.

The kid got suspended for the punch. He got suspended for the season because of everything else.

This. Ignoring this reality undermines any counterargument. Some of you also seem to be forgetting that he's had past incidents within the team that placed him on his second or third chance already. Suspending him for the rest of the season but still keeping him on scholarship, and technically on the team, still provides the teaching moments some of you seek.

Does this mean he has to turn in all four jerseys, three helmets, four pants, six pair of shoes, 12 matching arm bands, 16 belts, 42 pairs of gloves...

:roll:

[Winger]

Probably doesn't matter but he got suspended for the season at least in part b/c Scott told his coach and AD the conference wouldn't add anything if that was the punishment.

[TheCat]

So I guess Hill never did anything since the charges were dropped? Charges are dropped for many reason and most do not have anything to do with guilt or innocence. I guess the police were just practing their Tasing.

Part of my point is you shouldn't care where the activity took place or who did it if you really disagree with the behavior. I think this became a big deal because it occurred on National TV. Much worse activities have occurred (I posted a link to a few) away from the spotlight and therefore the punishment was considerably less. Not because the violation was less it was simply less visible.

It is over. He is off the team and that will certainly keep the AD and Coach from having to answer questions in the media. They can focus on the other players which is what they should do. It would have been a distraction and that is not fair to the other kids.

I appreciate the other points of view. I have often been accused of "bending over backwards" to give the benefit of the doubt. I think that is because I've seen people respond well. I have also seen them act like it didn't happen and not take accountability. We are not always talking about folks that have had the same advantages or experiences as we have had.

[Reydituto]

So I guess Hill never did anything since the charges were dropped? Charges are dropped for many reason and most do not have anything to do with guilt or innocence. I guess the police were just practing their Tasing.

Part of my point is you shouldn't care where the activity took place or who did it if you really disagree with the behavior. I think this became a big deal because it occurred on National TV. Much worse activities have occurred (I posted a link to a few) away from the spotlight and therefore the punishment was considerably less. Not because the violation was less it was simply less visible.

It is over. He is off the team and that will certainly keep the AD and Coach from having to answer questions in the media. They can focus on the other players which is what they should do. It would have been a distraction and that is not fair to the other kids.

I appreciate the other points of view. I have often been accused of "bending over backwards" to give the benefit of the doubt. I think that is because I've seen people respond well. I have also seen them act like it didn't happen and not take accountability. We are not always talking about folks that have had the same advantages or experiences as we have had.

My last two points on your takes here:

1.) You have no proof Hill actually did something wrong either. You're only making assumptions.

2.) Did it ever occur to you a.) that some of those "worse activities" that occurred away from the spotlight may have been incorrectly punished, and b.) that precisely because what Blount did was more visible, it deserved a more of a punishment? That's not being selective, that's saying that you must suffer the consequences of acting poorly in a highly visible setting which reflects poorly on more than just the individual.

I think Oregon got it right here. You don't. C'est la vie.

[gumby]

Huskies hate Ducks, which is why Smashie is here. :)

On a historical note, there was some outcry at Cattracks when Gene 'bowed that player. But a fair amount of sentiment that the guy must've deserved it. And some noted the upside, because we had been seen as soft.

BYU fans were not interested in nuanced explanations. The player was done.

Being on national TV was the fatal blow, I think, for the Duck player.

[rbabi18]

I freakin hate that guy

[popque]

...didn't show up for practice today

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/12171425

[PieceOfMeat]

...didn't show up for practice today

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/12171425

not surprising

and neither is this:
The team did not immediately comment on Blount's absence. Players at practice were instructed not to discuss it.

[DeezleWildcats]

:lol2:Tennessee Titans' LeGarrette Blount apologizes for punching teammate:lol2:

Titans running back LeGarrette Blount punched a teammate in the facemask on the final play of practice Wednesday night, and was quick to apologize to Coach Jeff Fisher for losing his cool.

The undrafted rookie from Oregon is best known for punching a Boise State player during a postgame brawl last September, leading to a suspension.

Blount said defensive players have been pushing the limit throughout training camp.

"Two plays in a row they pulled my helmet off intentionally, and then they did it again,'' Blount said. "They almost do it every day. They grab you by the back of the head and pull your helmet off. They know that automatically calls the play dead. They kept egging on and provoking 'til it got to a certain point. They did it to everybody.''

Said fullback Ahmard Hall: "If anybody else was to get mad it wouldn't be a question, it would just be a guy getting mad. But because it's LeGarrette Blount, everybody wants to bring up his past. Guys pushed him and he reacted, but it has nothing to do with what happened to him in the past.''

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20100819/SPORTS01/8190359/2215/SPORTS/Titans++Blount+apologizes+for+punching+teammate

[Zero]

What a moron.

[BlueMikey]

If he's that pissed about how he gets pushed around in practice, I can't wait to see how he reacts in an actual NFL game.