Anyone else heard about Oregon's NCAA troubles?

[SouthBayWildcat]

Originally Posted by illcat

Disagree, maybe the powers to be of the other schools in the Pac will realize that if their cheating and get caught. The conference as a whole suffers from their transgressions.

But why should only the Pac be punished so harshly. Like it or not Oregon and USC are the faces of this conference in football and by all accounts if the suggested penalty above were true they would be the harshest yet. I think USC had harsher than OSU and UNC.

I'm all for the punishment if it is deserved, but other schools in other conferences should not get off lighter than Pac schools which it seems to me is what has happened with USC and would happen again with Oregon.

[qwertyus]

Exactly. I mean, a lot of the other conferences (the SEC, for example) have massive, systematic corruption in terms of recruiting and gift-giving, but they aren't punished for it! I mean, what did Auburn get? Cam Newton eligible to play? Wow, that'll show 'em! They (Auburn) didn't even suspend Newton at all. Not even for games that didn't even matter. I think that these allegations really hurt our conference in the eyes of outsiders even more.

[illcat]

Originally Posted by SouthBayWildcat

But why should only the Pac be punished so harshly. Like it or not Oregon and USC are the faces of this conference in football and by all accounts if the suggested penalty above were true they would be the harshest yet. I think USC had harsher than OSU and UNC.

I'm all for the punishment if it is deserved, but other schools in other conferences should not get off lighter than Pac schools which it seems to me is what has happened with USC and would happen again with Oregon.

Beause PAC 12 isn't spelled SEC, ACC or BIG. Remember the only pure athletic conference in the country is the SEC so spout the pundits from ESPN.

[the real dill]

At best, Oregon has suffered a setback in its NCAA investigation. At worst…well, things could get a lot worse.

Oregon’s problem today isn’t simply that it didn’t get the summary disposition it sought in the Will Lyles recruiting service fiasco. Oregon’s problem is that individuals involved with Lyles will now likely have to answer questions in front of the NCAA’s committee on infractions. Which means when Oregon goes to its NCAA hearing, the subject will focus sharply on the “why” of Oregon’s actions.

• Why was Will Lyles paid $25,000?

• Why was Lyles facilitating recruiting visits for the program?

• Why did Lyles aid Oregon’s staff in getting a letter of intent signed by a recruit?

• Why did Oregon wait almost 11 months to request written scouting reports from Lyles after paying him $25,000?
Now close your eyes and imagine Ducks coach Chip Kelly answering those questions - or any others stemming from Lyles' allegations - in front of a committee on infractions panel. Frankly, Oregon might have reasonable answers for all of questions. And it might be looking forward to stating its case before a committee.





http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/not-fo...3.html#more-id

[budd1e_lee]

http://www.katu.com/sports/ducks/NCA...203135931.html

The report also outlines two crucial points for the Ducks. First, NCAA enforcement staff said they had “no finding of lack of institutional control and no finding of unethical conduct.” That could prove critical when it comes time to dish out punishment.

Second, the report says the school could face penalties under the “repeat violator” clause of the NCAA rules. The UO last had a major infraction in 2004; since some of the alleged violations happened within five years of that date, the NCAA could impose stiffer penalties.



Finding 3 – Heavily redacted

This section of the report is heavily redacted, likely because it names players and coaches who were at one point part of the football program.

In one of the only non-redacted parts of this section, the UO and NCAA agree a violation happened and that it is a “major violation.”



Finding 5 – Too many coaches were involved in recruiting

The school and NCAA agree that between 2009 and 2011 the Ducks had one too many coaches working on recruiting activities, according to the report.

The name of the extra coach has been redacted.

Finding 6 – Did the school promote an atmosphere of compliance?

This section is difficult to decipher because of redactions, but centers on an NCAA bylaw that says the head coach much promote an “atmosphere of compliance.”

In the report, the school and NCAA agree a violation happened, although the NCAA cautions that the report does not include a finding that [redacted] failed “to promote an atmosphere of compliance.” It does not state if that person is Chip Kelly.

Finding 7 – The school failed to properly monitor recruiting practices

According to the report, the university and NCAA both agreed that the UO failed to properly monitor the use of recruiting and scouting services, giving out school apparel and telephone calls between high school athletes and coaches.

The NCAA report outlines how UO staff would put information gathered from the scouting service into a database. They would then discard the original.

“It was simply to make the wealth of information received by the football offices more user-friendly,” the report says. “However, because there are specific NCAA bylaws relevant to information received from a recruiting/scouting service, there needed to be a mechanism for tracking the information received from these sources

[the real dill]

My two favorite parts:

"The report says Lyles did not coerce any player to choose Oregon..."

and

Oregon made 730 calls to recruits coaches and school administrators of recruits, and yet these 730 illegal phone calls are not directly tied to recruiting.

[budd1e_lee]

Apparently the heavily redacted 3rd section is about gifts and benefits provided to recruits by Lyles. Gifts, cash, UO clothing etc.

[threenumberones]

My first reaction is: not as bad as it could have been. Am I reading that right? The self-imposed punishment won't hold up I don't think, but it shouldn't be too much more I wouldn't think..

[budd1e_lee]

Originally Posted by threenumberones

My first reaction is: not as bad as it could have been. Am I reading that right? The self-imposed punishment won't hold up I don't think, but it shouldn't be too much more I wouldn't think..

It's hard to say, these were things they had mostly agreed to be true with the NCAA while trying to negotiate punishments. That negotiation fell through and the NCAA will now issue punishments after Oregon makes their case to a committee sometime before the summer.

[the real dill]

I'm starting wonder exactly what kind of shop Chip Kelly was running up there....

Remember how we told you last week that cornerback Cliff Harris had been cut by the Jets after he was arrested? And then how we told you this week that Harris was arrested again after he went back home to Oregon?

Well, now he’s been arrested again.

That’s Harris’s third arrest in the last nine days.

According to FOX 12 in Oregon, the third arrest was for failure to appear in court in connection with the second arrest, which was for domestic harassment after he was seen shoving his girlfriend. The reason Harris missed his scheduled court appearance is that he was pulled over for speeding and passing in a no-passing zone on his way to court, and the officer who pulled him over discovered that he doesn’t have a driver’s license, so the officer wouldn’t let Harris drive the rest of the way to the courthouse. Harris did eventually get someone else to drive him to the courthouse, but by the time he got there he was so late that the judge had issued a bench warrant, so he was arrested on the spot.

Harris was an excellent cornerback and punt returner in college at Oregon, but he was kicked off the team for a series of legal problems. As the legal problems continue, it becomes increasingly unlikely that he’ll ever play in the NFL.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-in-nine-days/